Who else doesn't care if some people buy early access into Velious?

[Solb]

I for one, don't care. Why does it matter? if you want to enter Velious early, then pay the small fee. As much time you have spent on this game, playing on a server which you have contributed NOTHING to, why do you care, if some people are given the chance to pay a small fee to enter Velious, one week early? How is this going to hurt you, those of you not entering Velious early? How will this early entry do any damage to anyone? I don't know the reason why they decided to allow people early access who pay a fee, but, does it really matter? I am sure there is a good reason behind it.

[Archestratie]

I don't care.

[myriverse]

Originally Posted by Archestratie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't care.

The whole "gotta be first" mentality is idiotic... but we're free to be.

[Artaenc]

Originally Posted by Solb [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I for one, don't care. Why does it matter? if you want to enter Velious early, then pay the small fee. As much time you have spent on this game, playing on a server which you have contributed NOTHING to, why do you care, if some people are given the chance to pay a small fee to enter Velious, one week early? How is this going to hurt you, those of you not entering Velious early? How will this early entry do any damage to anyone? I don't know the reason why they decided to allow people early access who pay a fee, but, does it really matter? I am sure there is a good reason behind it.

There's always going to be anal people out there in game or irl, this is going to end up in RnF for sure! I don't see why 5-7 days matters especially because there is no raid targets up during this time.

[shorttin]

Originally Posted by Byrjun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm guessing you haven't actually read the multiple threads about this, because the affect this has on the server has been talked about to death. To recap:

Let's discuss a situation where there's Raid Guild A and Raid Guild B. Both of these guilds are full of players who play p99 for the competitive raiding scene. These guilds have been splitting the limited content of Kunark + Vanilla and have been waiting for years to compete where the game actually starts getting a bit more difficult - Velious.

But wait, Raid Guild A has a couple of very rich players. They buy 7 day Velious access for all of their Warriors and Clerics, as well as some Druids/Wizards and others. Raid Guild A then farms full sets of Kael and/or SS quest armor for themselves. Now their Warriors and Clerics have much better gear than Raid Guild B has been able to obtain. But that's not even the worst of it when you consider the keying situation in Velious. 90% of the raid content is in WW. To get there, you need to port to CS. But to be able to zone with the port, you need a key on your character, which is a ground spawn in CS - so you have to travel there before you can get ported there. The problem is that you need a key to get through SS into CS, which is a huge bottleneck when you're trying to get dozens of players through on day 1.

So, the real day 1 of Velious hits when everyone can zone in. Guild A is porting into CS while Guild B is waiting on the docks in Iceclad. By the time Guild B is running across Iceclad, Guild A is engaging on raid targets. The integrity of the day 1 raid competition is completely destroyed, because Guild A was able to take advantage of a 7 day headstart to bypass day 1 time sinks, bottlenecks, and gearing. This creates a snowball effect - now Guild A has quest gear, raid loot, ST keys, and all kinds of other advantages that will have an affect on the upcoming months of Velious raiding.

Yes, it is a problem and yes, it does affect people who aren't buying in.

[koros]

It's beta access. CTFO anyone who cares.

Edit: Nm, didn't read the $5000 level one.

[Artaenc]

good luck on this one. "Guild A then farms full sets of Kael and/or SS quest armor for themselves" You'll be lucky if you get 1 piece or get the right gem/faction for one.

[drktmplr12]

Originally Posted by Artaenc [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

good luck on this one. "Guild A then farms full sets of Kael and/or SS quest armor for themselves" You'll be lucky if you get 1 piece or get the right gem/faction for one.

You're right, this invalidates the entire point he is making...

It won't be that hard to get several gems for one group of players. They may not have full sets, but they will be damn close i promise you that.

This is a valid concern for Guild B. A large part of a raid's viability is the gear that clerics and warriors are wearing. It is simply unfair for A to have access to raid gear and keys prior to B.

[Artaenc]

Originally Posted by drktmplr12 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're right, this invalidates the entire point he is making...

It won't be that hard to get several gems for one group of players. They may not have full sets, but they will be damn close i promise you that.

This is a valid concern for Guild B. A large part of a raid's viability is the gear that clerics and warriors are wearing. It is simply unfair for A to have access to raid gear and keys prior to B.

You should refrain from posting anything until you actually know what you're talking about. Just a suggestion, no need to blow a blood vessel on this one chief.

[drktmplr12]

Originally Posted by Artaenc [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You should refrain from posting anything until you actually know what you're talking about. Just a suggestion, no need to blow a blood vessel on this one chief.

Sorry for attempting to refute a point you made. Fuck me for trying.

At no point was I insulting or mad, why you feel the need to be.. idk.