Boxing

[lite]

yes

[Elderan]

Originally Posted by lite [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yes

3. The Lite Rule. GMs won't ask if you won't tell

[mikemandella]

Originally Posted by Elderan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

3. The Lite Rule. GMs won't ask if you won't tell

Elderan talking about GM's ignoring rule breakers.. Lulz.

word on the street is that petition about roxxur err Kontra is already in. I'd make that deal fast kid.

- Oppressor

[Colgate]

o man dis thread gonna be GOOG

[FaithlessKR]

I seriously wanna hear people's argument against boxing. I've never understood a reason not to have it.

[SprinklesAK]

Originally Posted by FaithlessKR [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I seriously wanna hear people's argument against boxing. I've never understood a reason not to have it.

Because allowing boxing will drive all players to box instead of play socially. EQ is built on the concept of working together with others to achieve things, and boxing directly undermines that concept.

Players not interested in boxing will quit or not join a server that allows boxing, actual human player count will drop long term.

Maybe try playing with new players instead of finding ways to avoid interacting with others?

[FaithlessKR]

Originally Posted by SprinklesAK [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because allowing boxing will drive all players to box instead of play socially. EQ is built on the concept of working together with others to achieve things, and boxing directly undermines that concept.

Players not interested in boxing will quit or not join a server that allows boxing, actual human player count will drop long term.

Maybe try playing with new players instead of finding ways to avoid interacting with others?

Yes because I want to be 100% reliant on having 15 porter friends who can port me any time i log on just to get somewhere??

I have about 6 and I can't remember the last time one of them was online and not too busy to come port my rogue around. Your arguments are invalid and absolutely ridiculous.

I boxed my entire EQ career and played socially nearly the entire time, and when pals quit...guess what I can still play because I'm not grounded by having one character in the world. When it all comes down to it, you can't 2 box trakanon, you can't 2 box venril sathir, you can't 2 box anything....so how is boxing ruining a social theme?

[Tradesonred]

Originally Posted by FaithlessKR [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I boxed my entire EQ career and played socially nearly the entire time, and when pals quit...guess what I can still play because I'm not grounded by having one character in the world. When it all comes down to it, you can't 2 box trakanon, you can't 2 box venril sathir, you can't 2 box anything....so how is boxing ruining a social theme?

Brainz

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[SprinklesAK]

Originally Posted by FaithlessKR [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes because I want to be 100% reliant on having 15 porter friends who can port me any time i log on just to get somewhere??

I have about 6 and I can't remember the last time one of them was online and not too busy to come port my rogue around. Your arguments are invalid and absolutely ridiculous.

I boxed my entire EQ career and played socially nearly the entire time, and when pals quit...guess what I can still play because I'm not grounded by having one character in the world. When it all comes down to it, you can't 2 box trakanon, you can't 2 box venril sathir, you can't 2 box anything....so how is boxing ruining a social theme?

Perhaps a 2 box limit wouldn't be as bad, I assumed this was talking about unlimited boxing. However, I know nobody on this server and have got around just fine without ports or gate. Maybe get to know more people? Maybe pay one of the druids porting people? (they are mostly newer players that could use the help)

Boxing for most of your EQ career I'm betting was live where most people did not box. So of course it is easy to be social when you are the lone 2 boxer and everyone wants to be your buddy because you have two characters. When boxing becomes available to everyone, everyone boxes, which means every group becomes 3 players right there.

So it definitely does limit the social aspect. If two boxing actually attracted enough new people to offset the reduced grouping and social opportunities it might not be bad. But it really seems like the main reason people want to box is to make their lives more convenient and make themselves less reliant on others.

IMO the definition of EQ's design is reliance on others and having to make friends. Clearly most of this server despises that fact, yet still continues to play EQ.

You don't have to agree with me, and I understand that you don't want to have to rely on others, but I don't like allowing boxing. I like that I have to make friends and talk to people, and I have to think about whether I PK, help, or ignore someone because that choice will matter because I can't live without everyone else. Not that boxing would eliminate that, but it does reduce it and I see no need to reduce it.

[FaithlessKR]

Originally Posted by SprinklesAK [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Perhaps a 2 box limit wouldn't be as bad, I assumed this was talking about unlimited boxing. However, I know nobody on this server and have got around just fine without ports or gate. Maybe get to know more people? Maybe pay one of the druids porting people? (they are mostly newer players that could use the help)

Boxing for most of your EQ career I'm betting was live where most people did not box. So of course it is easy to be social when you are the lone 2 boxer and everyone wants to be your buddy because you have two characters. When boxing becomes available to everyone, everyone boxes, which means every group becomes 3 players right there.

So it definitely does limit the social aspect. If two boxing actually attracted enough new people to offset the reduced grouping and social opportunities it might not be bad. But it really seems like the main reason people want to box is to make their lives more convenient and make themselves less reliant on others.

IMO the definition of EQ's design is reliance on others and having to make friends. Clearly most of this server despises that fact, yet still continues to play EQ.

You don't have to agree with me, and I understand that you don't want to have to rely on others, but I don't like allowing boxing. I like that I have to make friends and talk to people, and I have to think about whether I PK, help, or ignore someone because that choice will matter because I can't live without everyone else. Not that boxing would eliminate that, but it does reduce it and I see no need to reduce it.

I've been on this server since before the legendary items were removed. I've made many friends on this box, because I've been here for a very long time.

That being said, those of us who have been here that long don't want to have to log on a porter every 15 minutes to port every single melee around the world at max level because we're looking for pvp or something else to do.

The game grows completely fucking stale at max level when mass pvp or raiding isn't lined up, because you are 100% reliant on someone getting off their main character to be a port bitch. All you scrubs leveling up right now haven't been here, you haven't sat here at max level where there are no random ports available for over a year, so I really don't respect any of your opinions on the matter.

I don't play here anymore because of this, in fact the last week I did play I 2 boxed every single night just to get my rogue to wherever the action was, and even 2 boxed to rez myself after nearly letting my corpse rot out of frustration with how dumb this server is.

You can call this a QQ post and I honestly wouldn't care, it is a bit of tears because this game was fun on live all the way through velious and even a bit fun into PoP. I like playing melees, and have ever since the days when I first started, I don't feel like I should have to be chained down by the porter economy on the server just to be able to do anything.