Raid Scene Proposal

[Colgate]

With guilds like Holocaust, Blaze, and Eternal Light starting to field 15+ members regularly for raids and each guild continuing recruitment, it is only a short matter of time until there will be competition over the end game raid mobs. I am proposing the following things to keep the atmosphere away from becoming anything similar to what it was with Nihilum running the show. My aim is to keep the raid scene relatively casual, civil, and fun. I'd like this to be an open brainstorm session, and I'd like people to refrain from shitting this thread up and perpetuating the issues that this server currently has.

- Agreements not to over-recruit. Every single raid mob in the game can be killed with 4 or fewer groups. When your guild begins exceeding say 30 people at each raid, stop recruiting entirely. Numbers will naturally go down over time, and if they don't, I'm willing to bet that there is always a person or two in every guild that deserves to be kicked out. Nothing was worse than before where, at times, the only competition between Azrael and Nihilum was who could recruit more new players and sustain those numbers week after week. In the long run, this should lead to new guilds forming and even more chaos when several guilds are competing for the same mob(s), while lowering the chance that one single guild will monopolize content.

- Spread raid mob timers far apart to more reasonable times. This one is mostly directed at Azrael, considering they have all the important raid mobs on lockdown right now. Regardless of how you guys feel, a majority of the server does not want to wake up before noon on a Sunday. My idea would be to spread Venril Sathir, Phara Dar, Severilous, Innoruuk, and Cazic-Thule to different days entirely, and try to keep them in a more primetime slot. These are the only mobs that most of the raid scene cares about, and keeping them all on one day only promotes a winner-take-all environment that existed with Nihilum around. I think we all know that whoever won that Venril Sathir fight on repop day took every single raid mob thereafter 19 out of 20 times. When one side loses, many people often get demoralized and log off for the day, and then they have to wait 6 more days until they get another shot at any of the mobs they care to fight over. I believe that having the important raid mobs several different days of the week will keep more people logging in even if they lost the previous fight. It will create far more opportunities for mass PvP, thus lowering the odds that one guild will keep everything on lockdown.

- Keep it civil both in-game and on the forums. This will not only benefit the raid scene, but server population in general. Controlling your members who want to spam /ooc, shit up the forums, grief people on twinks, etc. will keep more newbies interested in leveling up to join us at the endgame. For instance, after mass pvp over a raid mob happens, the winning guild should kill the NPC, then offer to rez the opposing side's clerics and allow them to clear out. People should be cordial and not constantly give the community insight into whatever personality/social disorder they're currently suffering. Following this philosophy will allow us to police the server ourselves instead of relying on petitionquest every single day. If a guild foregoes this idea and decides that they'd rather act like pieces of shit, then the rest of us can make a concentrated effort to treat them like pieces of shit.

It's time to become men about it pals.

[Pikrib]

Add no raiding on Sunday and Monday night so we don't piss off the football gods.

[lite]

Azrael has yet to raid with more than 30 players, and recruitment is closed. As far as spreading mobs apart ... There's tons of mobs spawning throughout the week which is a million times better than waht you could have asked for a month ago. The primary ones are going to continue to die the same day until you do something about it. With the main guild only raiding with 30 and less, you should get to work asap.

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by lite [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Azrael has yet to raid with more than 30 players, and recruitment is closed. As far as spreading mobs apart ... There's tons of mobs spawning throughout the week which is a million times better than waht you could have asked for a month ago. The primary ones are going to continue to die the same day until you do something about it. With the main guild only raiding with 30 and less, you should get to work asap.

So in other words, no thanks to Colgate's proposal(s).

Thanks for your input.

[Colgate]

Originally Posted by lite [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Azrael has yet to raid with more than 30 players, and recruitment is closed. As far as spreading mobs apart ... There's tons of mobs spawning throughout the week which is a million times better than waht you could have asked for a month ago. The primary ones are going to continue to die the same day until you do something about it. With the main guild only raiding with 30 and less, you should get to work asap.

so you're suggesting i either:

mass recruit to where if anything spawns on a weekday we'll have well over 40-50 people

or

somehow convince all these people that don't/can't play on sundays to log in anyway?

this is the exact response nizzar and nihilum gave: "you know the timers, come do something about it" to which people in azrael said pretty much what i'm saying right now

how do you not see that?

[Andis]

Originally Posted by Colgate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

so you're suggesting i either:

mass recruit to where if anything spawns on a weekday we'll have well over 40-50 people

interesting, your first instinct isnt to bring 30

its to bring 50

very interedastingg

[lite]

Originally Posted by Colgate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

so you're suggesting i either:

mass recruit to where if anything spawns on a weekday we'll have well over 40-50 people

or

somehow convince all these people that don't/can't play on sundays to log in anyway?

this is the exact response nizzar and nihilum gave: "you know the timers, come do something about it" to which people in azrael said pretty much what i'm saying right now

how do you not see that?

you have a force that isn't going over 30. If you decide to contest and there are 30 + I will personally dismiss people... recruitment is closed. Targets spawning during the week ... Attack us on talendor, trak, gore, fay, druushk, naggy.

[Not_Kazowi]

Originally Posted by lite [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you have a force that isn't going over 30. If you decide to contest and there are 30 + I will personally dismiss people... recruitment is closed. Targets spawning during the week ... Attack us on talendor, trak, gore, fay, druushk, naggy.

Like when recruitment was closed and then you amassed half of Hokuten and have an active recruitment thread

[Colgate]

Originally Posted by lite [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you have a force that isn't going over 30. If you decide to contest and there are 30 + I will personally dismiss people... recruitment is closed. Targets spawning during the week ... Attack us on talendor, trak, gore, fay, druushk, naggy.

so for the raid mobs that people actually care about:

you want us to either zerg recruit in order to contest, or don't contest at all

?

[Dacuk]

Originally Posted by Colgate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

so for the raid mobs that people actually care about:

you want us to either zerg recruit in order to contest, or don't contest at all

?

as you well know a small force can easily take out a larger force in VP with the right tactics and execution.