Spells: root problems killing my guild

[Isoroku]

recent changes to root have all but fucked the smaller guilds. prepatch root didnt land and smaller teams could go in and have a fighting chance.


recent patch has all but crippled small groups and favors heavily a zerg guild.

pre patch if i wanted to zone 3 people into 8, that was a viable option, we'd pvp get in get out. now i run my 3 people in 8, and we are all tash and rooted and dead. This isn't pvp.

beyond what you think is classic or how it should work, you are basically saying fuck you to smaller guilds who don't want to mass recruit in order to compete you have to think about the bigger picture when you put in resist changes like this.


we need this reverted to old root system asap. there is no fine line here, simply put we need roots not to land and quickly. I'm not going to be able to keep my guild here when the other guild has 5x the active enchanters.

This needs to be emergency reverted to old patch, yesterday. you are going to bleed people very quickly. I can no longer log in and pvp if i dont have a equal raid force of enchanters and shamans.

edit: my entire BiS top tier krew has already started playing new games. The only oldschool "God's Work" left is me and jupe and a few casual people. And my guild is shrinking by the second. Noone can log in and have fun anymore. its root root root root dead.

[Colgate]

i agree

smaller guilds wishing to compete for high end raid targets on red99 simply cannot compete with the current resist code

however, making threads like this is pointless and only serves to probably piss off the few developers that have already helped us out and fixed these issues while they wait for rogean to patch the server

these changes were already stated to not be intentional

[Smedy]

Originally Posted by Colgate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i agree

smaller guilds wishing to compete for high end raid targets on red99 simply cannot compete with the current resist code

however, making threads like this is pointless and only serves to probably piss off the few developers that have already helped us out and fixed these issues while they wait for rogean to patch the server

these changes were already stated to not be intentional

pras colgate keeping it real

trolls like bazia and other people have openly trolled the staff into thinking that tash (a 0.5 second unresistable spell) should be the determining factor who wins the pvp, it's fucking dumber than anything i've ever seen.

If haynar got burnt out right now this server might just die because of this resist patch, i'd say revert the changes on the resist for now and keep the hitbox small, obviously the resist code is more complex than haynar first though and modifying it didn't result in the results nirgon or colgate was aiming towards.

[Burgerking]

Originally Posted by Colgate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i agree

smaller guilds wishing to compete for high end raid targets on red99 simply cannot compete with the current resist code

however, making threads like this is pointless and only serves to probably piss off the few developers that have already helped us out and fixed these issues while they wait for rogean to patch the server

these changes were already stated to not be intentional

WTF are you talking here, you never played classic dude you were 6, YOU NEVER PLAYED CLASSIC!

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Samwise, I can count on people get fettered 50% of the tash after being tashed

Gaanon (Stasis monk) has robe of azure sky and all kinds of shit... we tashed him and I'd say even 75% of fetters hit him

It's called people be lying about how high their MR is. Azure robe is 15 MR doesn't prove his MR is high enough to resist fetter debuffed. If I have to carry poison pots for every rogue he can carry poison pots for tash. Or get the multiple other items that remove tash in game that can be quested by a lvl 30.

[Infectious]

So whats your bug? Where are the logs? When did this happen? Who it happen against? How are you gona post in bugs when you posted nothing but.... Root sticks. Our 3 people cant kill 8 people?

I hope you understand why this post should be deleted/removed from bugs.

[Nirgon]

agree also

blind/stun/root/snare/whirl are crazy atm

bard dots land on 140+ of said resist

shock of lightning and chaotic feedback need to almost always hit

Shit'd be about perfect if all that was changed which is truly saying something [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Throndor]

OMG Its not entirely meleequest with the recent changes. This is an outrage. Casters should be harmless speed bumps. I repeat, casters having a fighting chance in PVP is an outrage this much be patched immediately.

[JackFlash]

Clearly a well thought out post by a well respected guild leader.....

Not to say there isn't a problem. But this isn't the way to approach it.

[SamwiseRed]

OP presents no evidence. I am not saying this isnt a problem, I am saying file a proper bug report. MR is working great without debuffs.

Originally Posted by SamwiseRed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

just casted root on myself over 50 times. resisted everytime with 100 mr. hmm mr def working without debuffs so the few who have said its completely broken need to sober up.

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need to test with tash and such still. i also need to test with roots who have no dmg modifier (chanter, wiz, ect) to see if there is a diff. someone else test this shit. sow actually faded btw in screenshots, i was never rooted in case someone wants to be e-detective.

now if only someone had a chanter or sham to test out roots while debuffed and still over 100MR. if only there was some way to test this....

[Crazycloud]

Originally Posted by SamwiseRed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

OP presents no evidence. I am not saying this isnt a problem, I am saying file a proper bug report. MR is working great without debuffs.



now if only someone had a chanter or sham to test out roots while debuffed and still over 100MR. if only there was some way to test this....

Would like to see 50 fetters and see the difference on root lvl difference