"Classic" feeling shifting?

[sox7d]

Original -> Velious was extremely fun and memorable, however I had a ton of fun during PoP and LDoN as well in different ways. Now that we've had five years of classic shoved down our throats, I kind of get the same "good ol' days" feeling I had about Trilogy as I do with PoP/LDoN.

DAE?

[mickey182]

I understand why people liked those (and other) expansions. I can see some merit in them myself. However, in other ways I think they were the absolute end of the game, which is why I quit playing when they came out. It's one of those situations where change/compromise destroys the purpose/integrity.

I'd fully support a spinoff server that expanded the game to include another expansion or two (or more), built on the existing P99 code. I would never play on it, but I'd approve of it. I wouldn't support such changes here, however, and would stop playing should they ever be implemented.

[Bodybagger]

Originally Posted by mickey182 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'd fully support a spinoff server that expanded the game to include another expansion or two (or more), built on the existing P99 code. I would never play on it, but I'd approve of it. I wouldn't support such changes here, however, and would stop playing should they ever be implemented.

Shit is definitely Classic! lol

sounds like everyone on live when the expansions were actually launching haha

[mickey182]

Originally Posted by Bodybagger [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Shit is definitely Classic! lol

sounds like everyone on live when the expansions were actually launching haha

Yes, but look at how that turned out: we left live, sony stopped getting our money and the game lost our contribution, and we all came here (this many years later) to get the experience we preferred. So what we can take away from the thread is that it IS similar to it was...some want more, many don't and will leave if it happens, and devs CANNOT serve both ideologies. We're either P99, or we're Live2.0.

[Xer0]

Originally Posted by mickey182 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes, but look at how that turned out: we left live, sony stopped getting our money and the game lost our contribution, and we all came here (this many years later) to get the experience we preferred. So what we can take away from the thread is that it IS similar to it was...some want more, many don't and will leave if it happens, and devs CANNOT serve both ideologies. We're either P99, or we're Live2.0.

You say that, but didn't they launch their 20th expansion or something like that last year? They're clearly still making a profit :P

Originally Posted by Mandalore93 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I feel that the perspectives of Luclin and PoP are almost one hundred percent based on nostalgia.

110% accurate.

[Lunababy]

Luclin is my cut off point. New models, world ports, easy leveling. Not the same game anymore.

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by Lunababy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Luclin is my cut off point.

Same.

Velious is even pushing it but the Yelinak / Tormax / Dain rivalry shit is real legit.

Also Lodizal.

[Clark]

Originally Posted by Lunababy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Luclin is my cut off point. New models, world ports, easy leveling. Not the same game anymore.

Na Luclin was the last great expansion that still kept previous content and items relevant. That being said we pretty much need a wipe to follow closer to the original timeline. Just about everyone has an epic now they aren't even remotely unique or special. Is like instanced MMO current day crap where everybody has everything and there's not much meaning behind having a unique item because everyone else has it and they worked 5% as hard to obtain it. Still a fun server but reminds me of current day MMOs now with the improper timeline and mass swell of unique items becoming common items. Then you have the embarrassment of new raid rules instituted that don't resemble anything and had little to no thought into its construction and change it would truly implement. Add in a lead GM/Project Creator who doesn't even login anymore. Sometimes I wish I just was a GM off the bat to give a more genuine and legitimate feel to our server. Project 99 will always be great for many many reasons and rich history; however it won't ever be known for devs and GMs going above and beyond their call to duty. Something I personally take some responsibility for because those positions require unwavering passion, compassion for your players from a realization that this game impacts thousands of people and each ones importance to the project and the fact that they're an actual person, innovation, and no secondary agenda which I would have brought to the table. So hard knowing what this server was like in 09-10 with a passionate and present staff.

[Nuktari]

Originally Posted by Lunababy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Luclin is my cut off point. New models, world ports, easy leveling. Not the same game anymore.

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[loramin]

I think if you ask most people on this server they will say "I quit when Y expansion came out, so I'd like to see a server with every expansion up to X". Now since people tended to leave in waves after certain expansions (Velious, Luclin, PoP and LDoN), those are the most popular choices. In general though I don't think there's any "right" answer to when the "classic era" ended because different people left at different times and thus miss different expansions.

But, here on P99 there is exactly one right answer: Velious. Rogean/Nilbog/anyone else who has a say in the matter hates Luclin, so this server will never include anything from Luclin (nor will any other server made by them). They've been very clear about this in their postings.

The only sad part to me is that if someone did want to make a Luclin/PoP/whatever server, they'll have to start with the crappy EQ Emulator base instead of the really awesome P99 base. Someday I hope the devs will find some way to allow others to build from their progress, but since they seem very much against the idea (to prevent cheating if nothing else) I don't see it ever happening.