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Old 02-05-2016, 03:37 PM
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"You guys might not realize this, but R99 has pretty much always been a 2 team server. Team_Zerg vs Team_OtherGuys. Just plug n play guild names as needed." - Sirken, 2015

This is a message to the administration as much as the general player base. This server's community and endgame will not change by itself. It never has.

Consider the Red players, all of whom want good boss loot. The quickest way to get that loot is to form the smallest possible group that can kill the boss, kill any other teams trying to get it, then take the loot. Let's call that the best case scenario. However, you need the best team.

The slowest way to get that loot is never. If you don't have the best team, or even a good one, you'll never get boss loot. Let's call that the worst case scenario.

Here's option three: form a larger group, much larger than you actually need to complete the content. Gather up all of the worst players you can find, people for whom the worst case scenario is the only option. Then zerg the place, and distribute the loot as best you can. Over time, everyone will have at least some loot. Let's call that the PvE scenario: the boring one.

Option three has been the dominant option for years. Players who are bad at PvP control the loot because, knowing they suck at PvP, they group up to cover for their bad play. Furthermore, the server's PvE rules and PnP protect the zerg.
  • Can't train them
  • Can't loot them
  • Can't violate FTE
  • Can't AoE them due to resists
  • Can't bind camp them
  • Can't cause EXP death or otherwise knock their levels down
  • Can't heal, dispell, or otherwise assist the boss
  • Cant even stop them from plugging or calling LnS
Server isn't going to change on its own. The zerg will always return because most people on Red aren't actually good at PvP. It's only ever a matter of time before they group up and zerg for the safety and security that brings.

This is why we need item loot back and no more server rules or /petition.
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Old 02-05-2016, 03:38 PM
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Holly Longdale.
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Old 02-05-2016, 03:41 PM
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server is dead just move on
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Old 02-07-2016, 04:20 AM
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Old 02-07-2016, 09:06 PM
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Old 02-05-2016, 03:44 PM
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I'm better than everyone else at pvp so i need GM intervention to regain controll of the pvp box.

Smedy has a place for you in <denial>.
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Old 02-06-2016, 12:03 PM
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I'm better than everyone else at pvp so i need GM intervention to regain controll of the pvp box.

Smedy has a place for you in <denial>.
Does this guy realize that is exactly how his guild was formed? Must be trollin.....


The entire rest of the server does not have the numbers to compete. It's been tried, empire brought 130 people (yes from 1 guild) and they still recruit in OOC daily.

They also train on throwaway accounts (Colgate finally got suspended for training with kidfire) to prevent any progression by other small crews

GMs should take a look before it gets progressively worse. Population struggling bad recently... I'm suprised they let it get this bad (again)
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Old 02-06-2016, 12:18 PM
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Does this guy realize that is exactly how his guild was formed? Must be trollin.....


The entire rest of the server does not have the numbers to compete. It's been tried, empire brought 130 people (yes from 1 guild) and they still recruit in OOC daily.

They also train on throwaway accounts (Colgate finally got suspended for training with kidfire) to prevent any progression by other small crews

GMs should take a look before it gets progressively worse. Population struggling bad recently... I'm suprised they let it get this bad (again)
I get what you're saying, but technically Azrael was given the top spot by GM intervention then Holo steamrolled them a few months later.
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Old 02-06-2016, 12:26 PM
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Does this guy realize that is exactly how his guild was formed? Must be trollin.....


The entire rest of the server does not have the numbers to compete. It's been tried, empire brought 130 people (yes from 1 guild) and they still recruit in OOC daily.

They also train on throwaway accounts (Colgate finally got suspended for training with kidfire) to prevent any progression by other small crews

GMs should take a look before it gets progressively worse. Population struggling bad recently... I'm suprised they let it get this bad (again)
Nice butterbrain. The Empire vs GG Karnors fight was 90 Empire vs 130 GG, we can re hash this up and post screenies if you want.

You idiots keep bringing up competing, we raid 4 days a week, and leave up roughly half the velious mobs every week, do you need to go toe to toe with us during our 3 hour mon-thurs primetime to kill these?

You guys would rather have 30 people sit around in TS and bitch about the server then log on and attempt to kill something.
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Old 02-06-2016, 12:30 PM
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You guys would rather have 30 people sit around in TS and bitch about the server then log on and attempt to kill something.
For real. This is my #1 gripe on this server. Everyone wants to sit around and talk about what we might be able to do for an hour and then take 2 hours to get 24 people together and then they are still surprised when it's getting late and people have to log off.

Thats why, when I want to log in, I just farm and show all my plat to enig in a trade window.
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