Guide On How to Stop Being Fat

[JurisDictum]

Being fat is disgusting. It signifies that you are lazy and unhealthy. The younger you are, the worse it is, but its no picnic being a porker at 50+ either. No women (most readers are men) wants to fuck a guy that doesn't look like he can move around a bit. And if your a fat women.. well...you get it without me driving home the point.

It's completely unfair though. I get it. I was one of those people that could get fat when I was a kid. I couldn't just eat whatever I wanted and stay thin like 90%+ of you out there at that age.

Additionally, my parents were stupid about it. Telling me dumb shit like its just genetic and ill grow out of it, and its just genetic when I didn't. Retarded...There is hardly anyone out there that has a hard coded problem with weight loss like that. If that's you -- go the fucking doctor and take your thyroid medication and problem solved.

Now weight gain is genetic, but all that means is some people level at the Troll SK during Classic pace, and other level at a Halfling Druid pace. We all can get 50 without too much trouble -- but some have it a lot easier. That being said, whoever finds it easy to stay thin seems to have a much harder time gaining muscle in a strength training program. So there is some trade off.

But the vast majority of people start getting fat around 30. This is because they don't lift, cardio or watch what they eat -- and their metabolism is now slowing down. They are even less active and they eat even more rich food.

Most people enter this phase of life with no fucking idea what eating healthy is like. They think chicken teriyaki with veggies is healthy and a piece of sirloin steak will kill you. To try to make it as simple as possible:

Don't eat any sugar. Aiming for zero will get you at like 15-20 grams a day most the time. The only thing with sugar in it you should be eating is fruits and a tiny bit in spices. Sugar is moving backwards, don't do it unless you are good with your current weight and can make it up with exercise later.

Most fruit are fine, but avoid: Grapes, Pineapple, Mangos, Papayas, and I'd only eat 1 Banana a day at most. All these tropical type fruits contain concentrated sugar. Apples, Oranges, and Pears -- just having 1 for a snack between meals is the best way to eat fruit IMO.

The other big area of concern is Carbs. Most carbs you as an American are accustomed too are very fucking fating to inactive people. Anything with white flour is a no go for fat people. In shape people have to watch out not to overdo it as many of them know. Same goes for white rice, pasta, and most potatoes.

Sweet potatoes and Yams are really good for you. Any bread needs to be whole wheat -- that Daves Killer Bread power seed is the big corporate brand that comes to mind. Or Ezekial. Basically if it is whole wheat you can have it moderation -- bread, tortillas, Naan whatever. Brown rice is OK but probably not best more than once a day not everday. Pasta is probably best kept once in awhile -- even whole wheat pasta.
Beans are really good in general -- its slightly better to make dry beans yourself then constantly eating canned version.

Right there most people can lose weight just by avoiding those things and maybe allowing themselves to eat meats they were convinced were unhealthy. Any meat is fine as long as it isn't completely marbled with fat, or somehow processed. Some ham won't kill you but I wouldn't have it every morning. The best weight loss-wise is Fish, white meat chicken and turkey.

With seasonings, just don't add more then a tiny bit of sugar (usually in something like balsamic vinegar), and avoid adding excessive amounts of fat. Fat isn't the enemy -- you all heard the story of how "low-fat" stuff is unhealthy. But you shouldn't be using butter really. And you need to keep the oils used for stuff like salads and pan frying meats down. Getting PAM might not be a bad idea (or just a spray bottle for oil). Avocados are loaded with healthy fat...but still fat so keep that in mind.

For Weight loss, avoid cheese except for the low fat kinds (mozzarella, swiss, provolone). Check sugar count for yogurt -- I don't think yogurt is as healthy as they claim...lots of healthy people like it is all. I use some half and half in the morning. If I want milk -- I drink whole milk. But I try to avoid that too. Processed milk (2% blah blah) is loaded with sugar. A little sour cream is here and there is fine.

Meals look like:

Breakfast: Beans and eggs

Snack: Apple

Lunch: Big Salad with beans (Garbonzo and Dark Red Kidney)

Snack: Nuts with string cheese

(work out)

Dinner: Yam, Veggies with Turkey

This will be a little better than just hitting 2-3 meals a day...but do what you have to do to stay on diet. It's also better to not eat during the last part of the day (at least 3 hours before going to sleep).

If you want to lose weight quickly, you get your calories down to about 1300ish (for people 30+, 1500 for younger ones.) You got to make sure to eat at least that much to avoid metabolism drop off.

An hour a day of exercise will make your metabolism rise. Your muscles take calories to maintain themselves, so if you build muscle that will raise your metabolism. The best thing you can do as a fat guy or girl, is pick up strength training x3 times a week. Basically you need someone to show you how to:

Squat
Bench
Deadlift
Press
Pull up

The rest is individualized to the person's goals -- but if you don't do those you are missing the best exercises to build muscle mass. It takes like less than a hour 3 days a week to basically change your life -- and your not to old to do this if your under 70.

After 3 days a week for about 3 weeks they recommend a rest these days for 1 week (so you can basically keep slowly building forever without burn out). The days your aren't doing lifting you can should do a cardio for an hour. Start with elliptical then move up to treadmill. Stuff like rowing and stair master are good between days of running to avoid problems with your knees. Bikes are hard to get your heart rate up but they build unique muscle that will burn fat later. Planks are something that you can learn on youtube very easy that flaten your belly a bit -- working up to doing these 6 days a week 1-2 a day will give your all the definition you need for abs. The rest will be diet.

After you are the weight you want to be you eat more like 1800-2000 calories -- but the same kind of diet. Its good to offset all that emotional overeating you did before by sense of superiority over those that are fat. Particularly all those pricks in high school who where skinny when you were fat -- most of them will be fat now. This a great time to go get back at them.

Edit: Quinoa is your primary rice replacement and a kind of go-to carb...left that out somehow.

[Cecily]

Eat less calories than you burn. Burn more calories than you eat.

[JurisDictum]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Eat less calories than you burn. Burn more calories than you eat.

Yes, but make sure your eating at least 1300 for the best deficit math. You don't want to go down to 700 and put your metabolism on ice.

Also if you are only eating 1300 calories and not eating health foods...your going to feel starving all the time, your skin is going to get fucked up and its not healthy. You wont put on any muscle without enough protein.

So why it is calories stupid -- its also important to pay attention to what you spend those calories on.

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes, but make sure your eating at least 1300 for the best deficit math. You don't want to go down to 700 and put your metabolism on ice.

Also if you are only eating 1300 calories and not eating health foods...your going to feel starving all the time, your skin is going to get fucked up and its not healthy. You wont put on any muscle without enough protein.

So why it is calories stupid -- its also important to pay attention to what you spend those calories on.

Cecily is right. It's understood people need to eat protein and a proper amount of calories according to body mass blah blah blah. You make it complicated.

Work more calories off than you put in = lose weight.

You fail to recognize in your comprehensive health post that some people have different types of bodies though, and also there really are legit reasons why a person may put too much weight on or not enough on even when following "normal" eating habits.

Your health post is well-meaning but seems to be more of a precise plan of healthy living that works for you, not at all broad-ranging for all the different types of people who are reading the posts here looking for helpful information regarding how they should eat/exercise properly.

Kudos to you though for having the discipline to eat and live healthily, assuming you follow this regimen.

You aren't Swish by chance, are you?

[JurisDictum]

Originally Posted by Lhancelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You fail to recognize in your comprehensive health post that some people have different types of bodies though, and also there really are legit reasons why a person may put too much weight on or not enough on even when following "normal" eating habits.

Yea this mentality does a lot more harm than good. Never met a person that lost 100+ lbs that didn't think a lot of stupid shit about how they were uniquely destined to be fat because of their genes or some health problem.

I didn't eat different then kids around me -- I got fat..what's the solution? Well maybe we should work on kids body image and self esteem right? No -- fuck no.

The answer is always the same. Diet and exercise. We can sit around all we want and talk about why its unfair some kids get to eat ice cream and stay thin and others don't...but no matter how many health problems that kid has or how unfair it is, diet and exercise is the only way out.

And your eating god damn chicken teriyaki and coming up with some reason why "that doesn't work for Juris but it works for me" -- your full of shit. Either you don't have weight problems and never had, in which case -- welcome to the how to not be fat forum you don't belong here. Or that chicken teriyaki is why you can't see your dick.

Skinny people are always full of this kind of shit advice I might add. "What works for you" -- because everything works for them. They never had your problem, they can't help you solve it most the time -- unless they worked with a ton with people that did have that problem.

It doesn't matter what kind of body type you have. Sugar is bad. White flour is bad. Some people eat that shit and don't get fat -- nothing to do with us. They are invaribly less healthy than people that don't for what its worth.

Calories @ 1300...yea it depends but not much...its all kind of guesstimate anyway. If your like 50 they might say 1100...whatever -- use some common sense. This actually was meant to be kind of general -- don't eat sugar, white flour, and too much added oils or fats.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Eat less calories than you burn. Burn more calories than you eat.

This.

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes, but make sure your eating at least 1300 for the best deficit math. You don't want to go down to 700 and put your metabolism on ice.

Also if you are only eating 1300 calories and not eating health foods...your going to feel starving all the time, your skin is going to get fucked up and its not healthy. You wont put on any muscle without enough protein.

So why it is calories stupid -- its also important to pay attention to what you spend those calories on.

True, there is no magic simple rule for food, otherwise all food would have a score and things would be a lot easier. And yeah, protein and such matter too. But at the same time, if you're going to pick one metric for losing weight, pick calories. You 100% can eat crap, but watch your calories, and still lose weight: just look at that diet professor who lost 30 lbs. or whatever eating only McDonald's.

Also it's worth noting that the calorie recommendation numbers you mentioned will vary for others based on their height/weight/gender.

[SamwiseRed]

in op:
Breakfast: Beans and eggs

you fuckin retarded? eggs are one of the worst things you can eat period, let alone when trying to lose weight. there is a reason they are called cholesterol bombs.

also:

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Eat less calories than you burn. Burn more calories than you eat.

[Mead]

Originally Posted by SamwiseRed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

in op:
Breakfast: Beans and eggs

you fuckin retarded? eggs are one of the worst things you can eat period, let alone when trying to lose weight. there is a reason they are called cholesterol bombs.

also:

Stating the obvious here but egg whites are good. Some cholesterol in your diet isn't bad for you (it's necessary for certain things) if you're going to + yolk. But I agree, you don't want to overdo it.

[Ass]

Originally Posted by Mead [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Stating the obvious here but egg whites are good. Some cholesterol in your diet isn't bad for you (it's necessary for certain things) if you're going to + yolk. But I agree, you don't want to overdo it.

egg whites are certainly better but honestly fat people are too lazy to separate the yolk. if you wanna lose weight stay away from dairy especially cheese. im not even fat and i ended up losing weight when i cut dairy out of my diet. fuck all dat shit.

[Mead]

Originally Posted by Ass [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

egg whites are certainly better but honestly fat people are too lazy to separate the yolk. if you wanna lose weight stay away from dairy especially cheese. im not even fat and i ended up losing weight when i cut dairy out of my diet. fuck all dat shit.

The majority of my diet is dairy and poultry. It still goes back to caloric intake as far as gaining or losing weight.