Cheesing Raid trash mobs?

[Baler]

Are raid guilds allowed to use bad pathing to keep trash mobs (non raid targets) busy during a raid?

A spot where the player can step back and forth causing the agro'd mobs to path in a C or V shape to get to the player. And when the player steps to one side they go all the way around that C or V shape,. player steps the opposite direction and mobs run around that shape the opposite way. then the player repeats this over and over to essentially locking down trash mobs with no risk.

I am just wondering this because I was traveling through kael a while back and noticed a monk on a peak of ice along a wall. They were just stepping left then right and repeating. Causing the mobs to run back and forth without getting to the player.

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This is not a RnF thread.

[Argh]

You couldn't do this with juggs at Trak.

[Legidias]

Is this any different than using said pathing to escape from mobs? Lowbies in MM, if they get too much stuff, can run up the little ledge near zone out so that mobs go up that then circle back around so the player can escape safely.

Or in sol a, you can hop through the window near LS zone out and mobs will run the regular route.

[Baler]

Originally Posted by Legidias [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is this any different than using said pathing to escape from mobs?

Yes, raiding has additional rules. Meaning it's more regulated than day to day gameplay.
see stickies here: https://www.project1999.com/forums/f...splay.php?f=69

Just stating this to try and keep this thread on topic.
I do see your point about these zones Legidias

[Baler]

Daldaen I think you're here for the wrong reasons.

This thread is a question, I'm not accusing anyone as you notice I don't mention names. It seems highly suspicious that you're so up in arms about my question being wrong.

And furthermore a cheat/expoit/clever use of game mechanics could care less about time span. 1ms to infinity.

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If you don't know if this is allowed then just say that. You seem to understand what I'm talking about so you don't need proof.

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And for anyone jumping into this thread now,. please start at the top.

[dbouya]

I remember doing this in like 1999-2000 in the gorge of king xorb on low level toons, there was this one really wonky nexus that made it super easy. This is definitely a classic feature. IMO though p99 has a lot more pathing errors than sony had in 2001 and we should petition these error spots as much as possible and hope someone fixes them.


That said crushbone's back wall area is still busted as heck and makes orcs warp around and it's one of the most basic zones in the game, so I don't have high hopes at fixing them all. Although I have to say, maybe my petitions about these issues were too poorly written to be of any use, sorry for anyone who had to read them.


tl;dr.
I think this is legal, but only if you report it to GMs and they don't tell you to stop/fix it.

[Baler]

I made a thread asking a question. Simple as that. Idk what you're trying to turn it into.

[icedwards]

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I made a thread asking a question. Simple as that. Idk what you're trying to turn it into.

The inhabitants of Innothule have a saying: "Ask troll questions, get troll answers."

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by icedwards [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The inhabitants of Innothule have a saying: "Ask troll questions, get troll answers."

[William_Munny15]

I think it falls on pathing exploit? I think it's frowned upon , I forget if there was a post about it , but I think i remember one of the GM's saying it's considered an exploit if they catch you?