Enchanter race/DE racial hide

[wholewitt]

Sorry if this is a question that gets asked a lot, forum search pulled up a crap load of results.

I am looking for some race advice on enchanter (for Green). I've read the wiki and was just curious about dark elf's racial hide as it isn't mentioned as significant. Does it only break charm sometimes? Can someone with experience help me decide if it's worth rolling DE for it or not? I currently have a 28 HIE and invising to get full xp on mobs when soloing is very annoying. I'm aware of the Goblin Gazughi Ring and intend on getting one but that is more of a long term goal and even then only provides invis vs animals.

Thanks for you advise!

[Baylan295]

Originally Posted by wholewitt [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sorry if this is a question that gets asked a lot, forum search pulled up a crap load of results.

I am looking for some race advice on enchanter (for Green). I've read the wiki and was just curious about dark elf's racial hide as it isn't mentioned as significant. Does it only break charm sometimes? Can someone with experience help me decide if it's worth rolling DE for it or not? I currently have a 28 HIE and invising to get full xp on mobs when soloing is very annoying. I'm aware of the Goblin Gazughi Ring and intend on getting one but that is more of a long term goal and even then only provides invis vs animals.

Thanks for you advise!

Hide is nice, but inconsistent. There will be no guarantees you break charm with it and save yourself a spell gem (or mana). I recommend planning on using invis, and going high elf

[wholewitt]

Originally Posted by Baylan295 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hide is nice, but inconsistent. There will be no guarantees you break charm with it and save yourself a spell gem (or mana). I recommend planning on using invis, and going high elf

That's all I needed. Thanks!

[Wallicker]

Invis vs animals with Ghazugi ring will instantly break any charm though.

[Benanov]

IIRC - if you are not a rogue, you cannot actually tell when Hide works, even with See Invis. You have to ask a friend.

Shadowknights get hide at 35 and on Live, I barely used it (Gather Shadows was better unless I was completely OOM).

[Crookstinger]

Originally Posted by Benanov [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

IIRC - if you are not a rogue, you cannot actually tell when Hide works, even with See Invis. You have to ask a friend.

You can target a non-indifferent (and non-undead, I think) mob before you hide. When hide works, the mob will con indifferent. There are some mobs that see through hide but they are fairly rare, I think.

[isoka]

Originally Posted by Benanov [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

IIRC - if you are not a rogue, you cannot actually tell when Hide works, even with See Invis. You have to ask a friend.

Shadowknights get hide at 35 and on Live, I barely used it (Gather Shadows was better unless I was completely OOM).

If you are not a rogue and want to check if your hide is active or not, untarget yourself, do "/target [yourname]" command.
If you are targeted, your hide failed, if not, your hide is active.

Considering a npc with faction change is another way to check, but there are cases where this won't work (on indiff mobs while invis and undeads which are kos to you for example)

[wholewitt]

Well I'm more concerned with hiding breaking the charm, which would be easy to notice. I didn't realize the Ghazugi ring broke all charms though. I imagine that mob is pretty constantly camped, especially once Green rolls around.

[Legidias]

gazughi has several spawn spots. It wont be severely camped cause its stupid rare

[stebbins99]

It won't be an in-game item until Kunark drops, just to note (drops off sarnaks in LOIO). It's a pain in the ass compared to many "camp items"