Camp rule clarification

[douglas1999]

If you die at a camp you are holding solo, is it forfeit? Or do you have a certain window to get back to the camp before somebody else can take it?

I took over a camp somebody died at, and they showed back up like 4-5 min later and said it's camped. I didn't argue the point and gave it back, but it did make me wonder what the actual rule is?

[Aueamin]

If you die, zone log out or anything to leave the zone you forfeit the camp.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Aueamin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you die, zone log out or anything to leave the zone you forfeit the camp.

I believe you also lose the camp if you go run around in the zone, to vendor for example, and don't come back in time for the respawn.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I believe you also lose the camp if you go run around in the zone, to vendor for example, and don't come back in time for the respawn.

Within a "reasonable" time of the respawn:

Originally Posted by Play Nice Policies

If you are to claim this point you must get aggro/First to Encounter (FTE) within a reasonable amount of time.

Everyone can define "reasonable" how they want, but you won't know whether it really was reasonable or not until someone takes a video that shows waiting exactly that long, /petitions, and has a GM make a ruling [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[ChooChoo Train]

Lol - you die you lose the camp even if you are bound 10 feet from it if someone else engages before you.

[douglas1999]

Ok that's what I thought. I was too nice to that dude!

[Ivory]

Originally Posted by douglas1999 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ok that's what I thought. I was too nice to that dude!

There is a difference between "legal" and "right"!

Legally you CAN take it....but it's a jerk move. Especially when trying to snipe a camp from some group exping or something (happened to my group! we had all gotten together a full group for some adventure.....died to a train...and someone sniped it! ...but they left soon after, so it worked out ok).

[douglas1999]

Originally Posted by Ivory [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is a difference between "legal" and "right"!

Legally you CAN take it....but it's a jerk move. Especially when trying to snipe a camp from some group exping or something (happened to my group! we had all gotten together a full group for some adventure.....died to a train...and someone sniped it! ...but they left soon after, so it worked out ok).

I completely agree. However the person might also be a huge asshole, but I generally assume they aren't if I don't know them. The karmic calculus gets dicey quick.

[Kich867]

To piggy back on this a little. I had a small dispute with a group awhile back in paw, they were obviously breaking into the zone because they were still at the entrance and lots of mobs were still alive.

I went and started fighting the gnoll in front of the safe room. They stormed in and took it from me, claiming I was trying to steal their camp. However it was clear they hadn't been camping this yet since both the safe room mob and the little bedroom next to it were both up and the mobs near the double doors were also up.

Do they actually have any rights to those mobs? I bounced because I didn't feel like dealing with it, but my understanding was that I didn't do anything wrong there, they either weren't even where they intended to camp yet, or they couldn't hold the mobs they said they were claiming.

A second scenario was less confrontational but, I arrived at Vhalen Nostrolo to see him still up and an AFK feigned monk there. I hailed him, I cc'd, no response, I waited about 2 minutes, no response, so I took him.

While killing Vhalen for the second time, the monk sent me a tell saying he was logging off and I could have the camp if I wanted it. I said sure, but at that point I had been at the camp for almost 10 minutes anyways with this dude afk. If he came back, did he actually have any right to it? Nostrolo would've been up for almost 10 minutes.

[Jack N]

Originally Posted by Kich867 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To piggy back on this a little. I had a small dispute with a group awhile back in paw, they were obviously breaking into the zone because they were still at the entrance and lots of mobs were still alive.

I went and started fighting the gnoll in front of the safe room. They stormed in and took it from me, claiming I was trying to steal their camp. However it was clear they hadn't been camping this yet since both the safe room mob and the little bedroom next to it were both up and the mobs near the double doors were also up.

Do they actually have any rights to those mobs? I bounced because I didn't feel like dealing with it, but my understanding was that I didn't do anything wrong there, they either weren't even where they intended to camp yet, or they couldn't hold the mobs they said they were claiming.

A second scenario was less confrontational but, I arrived at Vhalen Nostrolo to see him still up and an AFK feigned monk there. I hailed him, I cc'd, no response, I waited about 2 minutes, no response, so I took him.

While killing Vhalen for the second time, the monk sent me a tell saying he was logging off and I could have the camp if I wanted it. I said sure, but at that point I had been at the camp for almost 10 minutes anyways with this dude afk. If he came back, did he actually have any right to it? Nostrolo would've been up for almost 10 minutes.

Hard to believe that someone would become indignant over a mob they're not killing!