Which race for a solo Necro?

[Entee]

Which race is recommended for a Necromancer who never plans to raid / do end game stuff, and who 99% of the time will just be solo leveling and farming random stuff both in and outside of dungeons?

[DMN]

I'd make an erudite and put max possible in strength.

[Entee]

Originally Posted by DMN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'd make an erudite and put max possible in strength.

Really? That sounds super opposite of the answer I was expecting haha. Do you mind explaining a bit why?

Is it simply because more Str = higher weight limit? If so, wouldn't the loss of Int / Mana be a bigger deal than holding some more weight?

Also, why Erudite instead of Gnome or Dark Elf? They have a higher starting Str?

[Baler]

Iksar
Iksar
Iksar

The only Race for Necro is IKSAR

I went erudite on green and put 25 points into STA and 5 into AGI, because lich turns life into mana.

Erudite, Dark Elf and Gnome are options Pre-Kunark. Post Kunark IKSAR IS KING
Erudite = paineel, highest INT, Neutral
Dark Elf = Reaper of dead, 2nd highest int, Evil
Gnome = Tinkering, see thru walls, 3rd highest int, good?

I really can't encourage anyone to put 25 points in STR when weight reduction bags are in the game. Some people feel it helps, I think they're not min/maxing.

[Entee]

Originally Posted by Baler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Iksar
Iksar
Iksar

The only Race for Necro is IKSAR

I went erudite on green and put 25 points into STA and 5 into AGI, because lich turns life into mana.

Erudite, Dark Elf and Gnome are options Pre-Kunark. Post Kunark IKSAR IS KING
Erudite = paineel, highest INT, Neutral
Dark Elf = Reaper of dead, 2nd highest int, Evil
Gnome = Tinkering, see thru walls, 3rd highest int, good?

I really can't encourage anyone to put 25 points in STR when weight reduction bags are in the game. Some people feel it helps, I think they're not min/maxing.

If Iksar were an option now, I'd probably go Iksar. However, that's like what, 4-5 months away? By then, I'll probably already be level 40+ if I were to make a pre-kunark Necro now.

Not to mention, come day 1 of Kunark, there will probably be a million level 1 Iksar Necros running all over the place, and all the good Necro solo exp spots 1-50 will probably be perma camped for months while everyone is leveling their new characters, right?

Most importantly though, I don't want to have to wait months to start playing a Necro. I want to make one soon and start leveling it up while I can.

You mentioned you can't encourage anyone to go 25 Str because it's not min/maxing. With that said, what would you consider min/maxing for a pre-kunark Necro? Erudite 25 Sta 5 Agi?

If so, why 25 Sta and not 25 Int?
Isn't raw Int more mana than Sta converted to mana from Lich?

[Snortles Chortles]

i went ERU max STA build
imagine needing a crutch to play a class and waiting 6 months for it
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[Dolalin]

Iksar is more powerful levelling 1-59, which is good because you're going to spend 25% more time there.

At 60 it doesn't matter, you will have regrowth at every single raid and racial regen is mostly irrelevant.

[Adron]

It is crazy easy to get to max int with reasonable caster gear. Necro, who can camp anything they want, even easier than normal tunnel questing for int gear. So stamina makes sense for what to do after int, thus a reasonable option to do at creation is 25 stamina.
that being said, if you're not min/maxing for raiding, then you're min/maxing for soloing for items/gold, and 25 str does actually make some sense. Even on top of weight reduction bags, that just multiplies the effect, yes? Unlike most farmers, your options for quick sale/conversion of gold to plat are more limited, so there's that.
It's kinda hard to go wrong with a necro anyway. I can tell you I wear some str items on my iksar necro because of how annoying it is to stop farming and go bank/sell.

[Vexenu]

Originally Posted by Adron [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It is crazy easy to get to max int with reasonable caster gear. Necro, who can camp anything they want, even easier than normal tunnel questing for int gear. So stamina makes sense for what to do after int, thus a reasonable option to do at creation is 25 stamina.
that being said, if you're not min/maxing for raiding, then you're min/maxing for soloing for items/gold, and 25 str does actually make some sense. Even on top of weight reduction bags, that just multiplies the effect, yes? Unlike most farmers, your options for quick sale/conversion of gold to plat are more limited, so there's that.
It's kinda hard to go wrong with a necro anyway. I can tell you I wear some str items on my iksar necro because of how annoying it is to stop farming and go bank/sell.

It's really not, especially when limited to Classic gear and when trying to maximize HP for a Necro specifically. Go ahead and actually look at the stats of "reasonable caster gear" in Classic, and hell, even Kunark. You won't be close to maxing out INT while also wearing HP gear in your rings, ears and neck slots (as you should be doing on a Necro). And if you go Iksar it's even more difficult with their low starting INT. Maxing both INT and HP on a Necro doesn't really become feasible until late Velious.

OP: Make an Erudite with 25 INT and 5 AGI. Gear for INT and HP. Enjoy having a massive mana and HP pool. 15 INT, 10 STR and 5 AGI would also be pretty reasonable.

[Sabin76]

Originally Posted by Vexenu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's really not, especially when limited to Classic gear and when trying to maximize HP for a Necro specifically. Go ahead and actually look at the stats of "reasonable caster gear" in Classic, and hell, even Kunark. You won't be close to maxing out INT while also wearing HP gear in your rings, ears and neck slots (as you should be doing on a Necro). And if you go Iksar it's even more difficult with their low starting INT. Maxing both INT and HP on a Necro doesn't really become feasible until late Velious.

OP: Make an Erudite with 25 INT and 5 AGI. Gear for INT and HP. Enjoy having a massive mana and HP pool. 15 INT, 10 STR and 5 AGI would also be pretty reasonable.

Wouldn't that depend on what they mean by "maxing INT"? Although Green doesn't have the incredibly harsh softcap at 200, there is still a softcap and if that's where people consider "maxing" a stat, then it is, actually, quite easy to get to 200 INT with cheapish classic gear (I'm at 210 INT on my lvl 39 DE Mage and haven't spent more than 800p on a single piece of gear).

Now, if they mean actual numerical max, then I agree. It's just not feasible in classic without a TON of grinding either plat, raids, or both... assuming it's possible at all.