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Old 06-13-2021, 03:50 PM
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i just read on reddit that eq has more subs than wow and wow classic now!!! wow!!!!

asnolgold and other streamers switching to EQ LIVE P99 AL KABOR PROKECT ON TWITCH AS WE SPEAK!!!!!
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Old 06-13-2021, 03:51 PM
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A 20 YEAR OLD REVOLUTION IN GAMING IN THE MAKING.............. how will it go to stream EQ for 20 hours a day?????? ....... lets see!
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Old 06-13-2021, 03:53 PM
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Old 06-13-2021, 04:08 PM
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I wonder if this is because of the fact that most people are running like 5 boxed characters on essentially free-to-play subscriptions?
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Old 06-13-2021, 04:12 PM
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asnolgold and other streamers switching to EQ LIVE P99 AL KABOR PROKECT ON TWITCH AS WE SPEAK!!!!!
i fucking hope not 🚫
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Old 06-13-2021, 06:15 PM
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You gotta lack a lot of intelligence to believe this shit, so I appreciate the sarcasm? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I can see the whole of Daybreak having a decent amount of subs though, given they have a ton of IPs. But ya.. Still no where near what Live WoW gets all by itself.

FF15 has a decent amount but I don't know of any MMORPG that is doing "good", other than FF15, Maybe BDO is doing well.. Content creators are just that, creators of make belief content.

The asmon types who just constantly live in this narrative are comedic at best. Always sipping on a coke or a pepsi, talking about shit they will never understand properly.. Only 1 or 2 layers in, judging developer decisions.. Always funny how serious they are but they can always say they were trolling or doing it for content.

Id love for one of these guys to actually jump on Unreal Engine, and actually stick with it for more than a week (this is a joke, they never could..) all cynical gamers are a joke. You will notice they fawn over E3 games because they are oblivious and ignorant, not saying they are bad but they are consumers, they don't get to contribute to development outside their basic opinions on what they would consume.

My favorite are these content creators who make a living off calling all developers scam artists, any kick starter they see that isn't good is a scam.. Because they have no work ethic and have never developed anything in their lives, so they do not understand 1% of the struggle, they are a mass of bloated ignorance at this point.

Look at Notch etc etc.. They gave up, consumers of games are perfectly ignorant idiots 9.8 times out of 10, fortunately/unfortunately..
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Old 06-13-2021, 06:27 PM
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The asmon types who just constantly live in this narrative are comedic at best. Always sipping on a coke or a pepsi, talking about shit they will never understand properly.. Only 1 or 2 layers in, judging developer decisions.. Always funny how serious they are but they can always say they were trolling or doing it for content..
I cringed so hard when Asmon pretty much presented himself as an expert on what makes an MMO good while fully acknowledging that he never played EverQuest, and declared it bad because he didn't like the dated graphics. He then proceeded to describe a game that was exactly like EverQuest for what would make the ideal MMO.

Reminds me of my real-life friend who is always "shocked" at how sophisticated and advanced EverQuest is.. it's like in his mind he thinks that because it's an older game then it must be more simple than WoW and other modern MMOs. What he doesn't understand is that they actually dumbed WoW down to make it more user friendly, and that despite being "more modern" that it is actually way less complex.

Also the weird thing about people complaining about the graphics on EverQuest... I agree the graphics are bad when you look at the game, but when you play the game it has a way of sucking you into the game. I don't know how they do this, but I assume it has something to do with the camera angle and how dangerous and disorienting the environment is.

When I play EverQuest I get completely sucked in, the world around me doesn't even exist. When I play WoW I never feel like I'm in the game or that the world matters. Not even with classic WoW. Where you just run passed dozens of mobs without a care in the world. If you did that in EverQuest you would either die or end up with the most insane train ever.
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Old 06-13-2021, 06:29 PM
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I cringed so hard when Asmon pretty much presented himself as an expert on what makes an MMO good while fully acknowledging that he never played EverQuest
Like for real, if WoW is his idea of the best MMO of all time it makes me sad because he has no clue how subpar it is. Like everything that made thousands of people flock to WoW classic are even more prevalent in it's predecessor (EverQuest).
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Old 06-14-2021, 02:23 PM
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I cringed so hard when Asmon pretty much presented himself as an expert on what makes an MMO good while fully acknowledging that he never played EverQuest, and declared it bad because he didn't like the dated graphics. He then proceeded to describe a game that was exactly like EverQuest for what would make the ideal MMO.

Reminds me of my real-life friend who is always "shocked" at how sophisticated and advanced EverQuest is.. it's like in his mind he thinks that because it's an older game then it must be more simple than WoW and other modern MMOs. What he doesn't understand is that they actually dumbed WoW down to make it more user friendly, and that despite being "more modern" that it is actually way less complex.

Also the weird thing about people complaining about the graphics on EverQuest... I agree the graphics are bad when you look at the game, but when you play the game it has a way of sucking you into the game. I don't know how they do this, but I assume it has something to do with the camera angle and how dangerous and disorienting the environment is.

When I play EverQuest I get completely sucked in, the world around me doesn't even exist. When I play WoW I never feel like I'm in the game or that the world matters. Not even with classic WoW. Where you just run passed dozens of mobs without a care in the world. If you did that in EverQuest you would either die or end up with the most insane train ever.
Ya unfortunately Everquest is a really hard sell today. MMORPGs today, like Social Media focus on trying to draw someone in with subliminal ques rather than just getting someone into them for legit reasons on why they are actually fun to use.

For instance something like Fortnight, where you are rewarded just for logging in an playing, finishing dailies etc.. This was all thanks to World of Warcraft more than Fortnight, even though people will blame Fortnight and things like Call of Duty, it was WoW that originally tried this dopamine drip kind of content.

I find it really sad that my nephews won't really understand what it was like playing something like Neverwinter Nights or Ultima or Might and Magic because they simply can't find satisfaction from just playing the game, enjoying the story, completing the game.

But ya, today you will be told you are being "nostalgic" by saying anything positive about a game like Everquest let alone Dark age of Camelot, Ultima Online.. Meridian 59.. The vast majority of people have no idea what a good game is, they just know how to have their nervous system completely manipulated and abused..

But ya, a lot of people don't read books today either [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 06-14-2021, 02:38 PM
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I cringed so hard when Asmon pretty much presented himself as an expert on what makes an MMO good while fully acknowledging that he never played EverQuest, and declared it bad because he didn't like the dated graphics. He then proceeded to describe a game that was exactly like EverQuest for what would make the ideal MMO.
Isn't that guy a professional streamer? I can see why a person doing that for a living wouldn't want to bother with an outdated-looking, slow-paced product. That job demands something that's not just entertaining as a user, but also entertaining to watch as a spectator sport of sorts. That is not EQ.

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But ya, today you will be told you are being "nostalgic" by saying anything positive about a game like Everquest let alone Dark age of Camelot, Ultima Online.. Meridian 59..
Heck, you see that type of comment even on this forum. I assume it's a sort of projection at work: Folks who're here solely as "nostalgia tourists" can't fathom that others might actually like the game for its own sake.
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