Monk Wrists question

[Arior Windcaller]

Hey fellow monks got a question for you

I've been lusting over a SWC for sometime now. I have my ring (won angry) and have someone with a sinew ready to MQ with me...or I can go hunt my own Sinew whatever wont take long.

Now I am just at the point where I have to save up for an urn. There is no way I can hunt the urn myself.

Here is where my question comes in. I have a Fungi that I was considering selling to help fund it, I also have a wrist guard of thunder that I can sell to help fund it. But that leaves me with an empty wrist slot.

My other wrist is the PoSky wrist right now (back straps of mastery)

I want the SWC to go into the shoulder slot cause lets be honest that is a pretty thin slot for monks.

But if I sell the Wrist Guard of Thunder then I am now missing a wrist slot. Is it worth putting the SWC in the wrist slot until I get, like a Bracer of Benevolence (ugh I really don't want to deal with the RNG jesus but I will)

Or do I go for the Ton Po's sky shoulder slot to keep the SWC there?

Is it worth just keeping the wrist guard and slowing saving up for a drusilla urn?

Thoughts?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Honestly SWC isn't that great of an item. Its just overhyped due to it being a non-raid AoB and 100 HP item. I wouldn't sell anything and just save up the money, it won't make your life any better than what you currently have.

[myrddraal]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Honestly SWC isn't that great of an item. Its just overhyped due to it being a non-raid AoB and 100 HP item. I wouldn't sell anything and just save up the money, it won't make your life any better than what you currently have.

its the only 100 hp arm slot. In terms of monk wrists there is SBOS, Silver charm, and the dragonskin bracelet so they have more options than most.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by myrddraal [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

its the only 100 hp arm slot. In terms of monk wrists there is SBOS, Silver charm, and the dragonskin bracelet so they have more options than most.

Yes, and 100HP items aren't great by themselves[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] That is why it is overrated, you spend something like 200k for it, and for most players 200k would go farther elsewhere.

If OP is a hardcore raider with many 100 HP items, it would make more sense to try and get 100 HP items in all slots for the high HP bragging rights and benifits. Otherwise, you are spending 200k for no reason, and getting basically nothing for it. You can't even trade it across toons.

An individual 100HP item doesn't take you far because you could most likely spend the 200k to upgrade multiple slots, which would give you more than 100 HP and other stats/benefits.

[wagorf]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes, and 100HP items aren't great by themselves[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] That is why it is overrated, you spend something like 200k for it, and for most players 200k would go farther elsewhere.

If OP is a hardcore raider with many 100 HP items, it would make more sense to try and get 100 HP items in all slots for the high HP bragging rights and benifits. Otherwise, you are spending 200k for no reason, and getting basically nothing for it. You can't even trade it across toons.

An individual 100HP item doesn't take you far because you could most likely spend the 200k to upgrade multiple slots, which would give you more than 100 HP and other stats/benefits.

This guy spits the truth. Good advice that's tailored to the OP's situation.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

To elaborate a bit:

1. If you sell your Fungi, you will have more downtime with SWC than Fungi when soloing. In groups, Fungi is still superior for when you need to recover after a failed pull. You are losing 13 HP/Tick to gain 100ish HP, which isn't a great trade-off when you realize you won't be at full HP most of the time anyway, so the max HP isn't doing much for you. Max HP is best utilized in high risk scenarios, where your whole HP bar can be dropped quickly, and you need a bit extra to hopefully survive. Unless your playstyle mostly deals in those scenarios, the Fungi is better.

2. Stat-wise the Wrist Guard of Thunder isn't that far off from an SWC, minus the AoB. Your Wrist Guard of Thunder gives 10 STR, so ATK wise you aren't that far off, unless you are STR capped with buffs. Your Fungi is giving you more regen, so when you combine Fungi + Wrist Guard of Thunder you end up in a better spot. The only thing you are missing is the 60ish HP from SWC, after you subtract the 50HP from Wrist Guard of Thunder.

In conclusion, there is no real need to strip your character to get SWC, as you lose power overall. It will obviously be a good addition to your gear set whenever you save up enough plat, but it isn't a game changer. If you were talking about selling your Fungi for something like Torpor, that would be different, as Torpor changes your character way more than Fungi. Obviously you are a Monk, so Torpor doesn't apply, but I hope you get my point in terms of properly gauging what kind of item is worth stripping your character for, and what kind of item isn't. SWC falls into the latter category.

EDIT: The only scenario where selling off large chunks of your character may make sense is if you are the kind of player who can make hundreds of thousands of plat in a relatively short period of time. In that scenario jumping on buying an urn when one is available may be beneficial, as supply tends to be quite limited. This opportunistic purchase may save you time in the long run, and you can just make the money back. But in this scenario, selling your Wrist Guard of Thunder would be counter-intuitive, as it is rarer than urn, so you may end up wasting more time trying to buy it back later. If you could make money hand over fist, however, I imagine you wouldn't be asking this question in the first place[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Croco]

Depends what you have to replace the fungi with, I sold mine for that exact reason and just used my pog chest and barely noticed that the fungi was gone.

I say get the cords for your shoulder and go to scout rolls for wrists.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Croco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Depends what you have to replace the fungi with, I sold mine for that exact reason and just used my pog chest and barely noticed that the fungi was gone.

I say get the cords for your shoulder and go to scout rolls for wrists.

Oh don't get me wrong, there are better chest pieces than Fungi, especially once you hit 60. But selling a Wrist Guard of Thunder and a Fungi for a SWC specifically is a bad trade off stat-wise. He doesn't have a replacement for the wrist, so he would just be losing 13 HP Regen to gain a bit of max HP. Even if OP just got an amazing chest, Fungi on swap would still be better than losing Fungi + Wrist Guard of Thunder for SWC.

I can understand the item lust is driving you to make rash decisions, but resist it. SWC really is overhyped[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Ripqozko]

Get 1 bob, keep wrist, get str of elements, farm plat to get cords for arms.

[Keebz]

Originally Posted by Ripqozko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Get 1 bob, keep wrist, get str of elements, farm plat to get cords for arms.

This is the way.

I will say Zlex wrist is also relatively obtainable if you do NToV. I find it hard to do Scout Roll on characters I actually play, but it's possible, esp. if you don't thrash your CoV faction every week. So if you do NToV it might be simpler to get Zlex wrist, but if not BoB is there for you.

Also, SWC is for the arms not the shoulders. Strength of Elements isn't too hard to get. Iki and HoT arms are totally fine in the meantime. Work towards SWC slowly by farming fungi's or what have you. Disclaimer: I'm on Green and can't get SWC yet.