Server Pop plummeting

[gloinz]

server pop plummeting: discuss

I think its because lovely has single handedly demotivated every player on server because at the end of the long grind tunnel is lovely with ice comet, nagafens tractor beam, and 50 gate pots

[Diggles]

I think it's because the server is full of assholes who rub their penises across their monitor while they screen shot every PK they get.

[gloinz]

Originally Posted by Diggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think it's because the server is full of assholes who rub their penises across their monitor while they screen shot every PK they get.

dont doubt this big gloinz cant help it but slay everything in sight

[Jon Lemon]

Originally Posted by gloinz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

dont doubt this big gloinz cant help it but slay everything in sight

everyone who has ever grouped with you laffed at this

[Envious]

Originally Posted by Diggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think it's because the server is full of assholes who rub their penises across their monitor while they screen shot every PK they get.

Or like Salty, take 5 SS's for no killshot.

[Daefuin]

Originally Posted by Envious [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Or like Salty, take 5 SS's for no killshot.

Are you dumb? It showed his body falling to the ground. Spell effects and corpse. Would you like me to post the screenshot with the text that says You have slain Killing? I have about 16 of those screenshots btw, but I can post that specific one if you'll stop whining about it.

Back to original discussion:

Players PERCEIVE there to be some sort of massive exploiting going on because

a) idiots trolling general forum about exploits, wipes, etc when it couldn't be further from the truth. Ask someone to expound on the "massive exploits" and all you get is gibberish about 2 people gained 2-3 levels each using wands and how mage swords are an exploit.

b) lovely trolling general forum trying to convince people he's exploiting his way to nagafen, guk, etc loots when it couldn't be further from the truth.

This could be solved by proper forum moderation. There's no reason that there should be a 15 page thread for 3 days about wiping the server on the main server chat forum. You think that helps server population?

Furthermore, server pop is still pretty healthy. VZTZ had 100-140 players on much of the time with the majority 2-3 boxed.

[MethodSZ]

Originally Posted by Daefuin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are you dumb? It showed his body falling to the ground. Spell effects and corpse. Would you like me to post the screenshot with the text that says You have slain Killing? I have about 16 of those screenshots btw, but I can post that specific one if you'll stop whining about it.

Back to original discussion:

Players PERCEIVE there to be some sort of massive exploiting going on because

a) idiots trolling general forum about exploits, wipes, etc when it couldn't be further from the truth. Ask someone to expound on the "massive exploits" and all you get is gibberish about 2 people gained 2-3 levels each using wands and how mage swords are an exploit.

b) lovely trolling general forum trying to convince people he's exploiting his way to nagafen, guk, etc loots when it couldn't be further from the truth.

This could be solved by proper forum moderation. There's no reason that there should be a 15 page thread for 3 days about wiping the server on the main server chat forum. You think that helps server population?

Furthermore, server pop is still pretty healthy. VZTZ had 100-140 players on much of the time with the majority 2-3 boxed.

1) VZTZ was a trash server so lets not use that as a way to gauge success here.

2) Obviously there were bugs that were exploited. Whether they gave people 1 RL day or 5-7 RL days leg up on leveling is unknown (lovely says he only exploited wands for 3 levels, but that could be more like 5-6 levels, or whatever, plus it could have been used by more than just a few people). Saving a week of /played is a lot of time to someone with a job.

So you are right, no one really knows, but thats mostly the fault of the GMs that don't ever say anything about it despite it being a clear concern to the players via these forums.

So the other bugs like possibly exploited pathing with eye spells might be a big deal, might not be, won't really know.

Lastly, summoned swords + pets. I heard this got nerfed or is about to be nerfed, but only after the level 30+ crowd had a full week and half to benefit from it? That kind of shit doesn't belong and ends up being divisive to the players that didnt get a chance to benefit from it.

The fact that there is a perceived notion of exploiting going on and no one from the staff seeming to give a fuck about it is probably what hurts the server the most, more than the actual exploits.

[Morninx]

Originally Posted by Daefuin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Furthermore, server pop is still pretty healthy. VZTZ had 100-140 players on much of the time with the majority 2-3 boxed.

Having 100-140+ on VZTZ is much different then on Red99. On VZTZ the population was majority the same lvl(50). They occupied or fought over the same zones. Also OOC was global. All in effect giving the feel of a much fuller server.

On Red99, a population of 100 people, spread across 50 levels, occupying a lot more zones, and no Global OOC, all gives the effect of being empty. Therefore, the lvl 5 sitting in Greater Fay alone spending hours trying to solo, not gonna last long.

With this all being said, the most brilliant idea I heard to fix the server is Searyx idea of making lvls 1-30 or so much easier.

Though 1-30 is fun, It will condense the population and promote new players.

[gloinz]

Originally Posted by Morninx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Having 100-140+ on VZTZ is much different then on Red99. On VZTZ the population was majority the same lvl(50). They occupied or fought over the same zones. Also OOC was global. All in effect giving the feel of a much fuller server.

On Red99, a population of 100 people, spread across 50 levels, occupying a lot more zones, and no Global OOC, all gives the effect of being empty. Therefore, the lvl 5 sitting in Greater Fay alone spending hours trying to solo, not gonna last long.

With this all being said, the most brilliant idea I heard to fix the server is Searyx idea of making lvls 1-30 or so much easier.

Though 1-30 is fun, It will condense the population and promote new players.

ya i havent had a full group ever since level 15, currently lvl 27 and the only ppl around that can group/duo usually get way better xp solo so they like fu paladin

[Haul]

Originally Posted by Diggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think it's because the server is full of assholes who rub their penises across their monitor while they screen shot every PK they get.

LOL