Why is training allowed on p99 in veeshan's peak? (poll asking your opinion)

[Clark]

haha that's a good one

[Arteker]

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Whats the difference between casting offensive spells on one another and training eachother besides the fact that a player is doing the damage in one case, and an NPC in another?


Its the same shit, meta pvp vs real pvp...if you want a FFA zone may as well go full retard with it and turn on PVP.

would you use duping in vp because is a ffa zone?

[Clark]

Originally Posted by Arteker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

would you use duping in vp because is a ffa zone?

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[Arteker]

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why do you continually post here with nothing constructive to offer other than trollbait posts?

because admit it it u guys would do that , be honest and call it . one thing is to race for a mob, win or lose there is a chance for both guilds. popsock just made shit even worse.

i know u would like to us to return to 15 first in spawn point rule if it benefeits your guild and only ur guild for such mobs .

yet u claim alot of non life posts and cry when mobs go extended mega windows like when u guys popsock vs for 3 extra days extended window .


and this isnt a flame why u guys didint event attemp vp when tmo was in repop, just ignored all raid mobs and go for vp .
u guys dont even bother to go to vp if isnt to train or attemp to delay.


u guys have the keys u guys even have more experience in trains than all previus guilds squashed agaisnt tmo in vp.

yet u guys dont try nada when just 3 tmo players pop to play the game ?.

i remember aswell FE politic to Vp key first train capable classes and not regular ones.

[Godefroi]

Originally Posted by Arteker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

and this isnt a flame why u guys didint event attemp vp when tmo was in repop, just ignored all raid mobs and go for vp .
u guys dont even bother to go to vp if isnt to train or attemp to delay.

Because TMO doesn't need VP loot beside for their new scrub apps or their OGs' 4th alt.

It's fun to delay a raid for 10 hours when you don't need anything in there, then when ever the way is clear and the no lives are tired or outta addies that's when the raid happens. Outta 30 VP Ready FE , 10 will have fallen asleep , outta 60 VP ready TMO, 45 will still log in and that's plenty to melt anything in there.

You can try hard andro, you're just not gonna be able to justify your guild's stance on VP and the way the server reacted ot it.

Capische ?

[Laugher]

Originally Posted by Clark [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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lol this one I missed too.. until:

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[quido]

ya morans

[Laugher]

lmao every time I see that word now I think of the guy in the picture with the sign in his hand

[timhutton]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What he thinks it should be and the reason it is the way it is, are two different things.

Why is training allowed on p99 in veeshan's peak?

Has been answered.

I'm sorry, where has this been answered? Did you even read my post, where I went through and showed that the reason was NEVER announced anywhere in either the patch notes when VP was opened, or in the thread where it was determined that VP was going to be a FFA zone: http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...&postcount=226

Where else on these forums (or in this thread) was this ever addressed by anything other than anecdotal evidence and conjecture of what people "remember"?

Remembering something or thinking you know why things happened are not the same as finding evidence or hearing from the person that made the decision themselves. At the start of this this thread, people were claiming they "Remembered" intentional training occuring all the time in VP on their server. on page 69, and again on page 80 elethia, vianna, and I were able to factually prove that training in VP has always been against the PnP enacted on live. So much for memory.

I have no interested in what you, or anyone else regarding the situation remember. I have my own opinions and memories but that doesn't help either.

Where is the post/comment from the people that made this decision explaining why it was made? It's entirely possible I'm missing it and it is out there, if that's the case then please link it.

Just don't bother telling me what you remember, I don't care. I want to see facts.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You'll have to do some research for the exact news post that implemented it, I'm sure that contains information. Or perhaps your fellow players will help. I'm not here to answer your question about why every policy exists, just to fix your misconceptions.

You're still comparing it to eqlive in the rest of your post. It's not an EQLive related policy. You should stop doing that.

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I honestly didn't read many responses to Rogean, so I never seen your reply. However, from what I remember, VP is the way it is due to the fact that IB and TMO were always petitioning raids and that VP had/has horrible pathing. I was there before it opened and was there when it was opened and the months following.

I am pretty sure both of those reasons were stated, one reason VP was supposedly delayed and then forced to roll for mobs was because of all the shit slinging months prior (supposedly).

Originally Posted by Ambrotos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pretty much this is what I remember. I think Rogean even made a post. Now that there is FTE, and a lot has changed on the server I don't see why the zone should be a FFA. Haven't been able to read all 72 pages yet, so if I am wrong, then I am wrong.

It was said, It is known.

P.S. The PnP policy means absolutely nothing to how things were actually handled, so you factually proved nothing. A policy and how a Policy is enforced are two completely different things, I would think that you guys could, at the very least, grasp that.