No problem with you bards until tonight, what you guys should understand.

[kaev]

There's nothing wrong with Bards on this server that a few dozen 30-day bans wouldn't straighten out right quick.

[indiscriminate_hater]

Yes, I have read everything you posted. I thought that was obvious based on how many quotes of yours I re-posted.

Also, the context of these quotes is you trying to argue why you deserve easy pulls in a game that is anything but.

Anyhow, I guess you missed the main point of MY post, which was put in bold.

also, Bush, towers, etc.

[Swish]

Good luck with this "debate"

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[wrxBRAH]

Originally Posted by kaev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's nothing wrong with Bards on this server that a few dozen 30-day bans wouldn't straighten out right quick.

[skipdog]

Originally Posted by Champion_Standing [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've already quoted and linked the post in this thread.

Ok, I found it. Thanks.

We need our 'Server Rules' post updated if one GM is going to change the server rules and expect everybody to have seen the post he made at some point. Because isn't Sirkin basically saying, 'If you don't see any mobs around and spot a bard with a HUGE train, just petition, as that bard is breaking the rules of monopolizing a zone'.

Am I missing something? It seems like it would be extremely hard to enforce the 'monopolizing zones' rule. This just goes against what is established as the rules and even against what many people here seem to believe the rules are. The fact is, the server rules specifically state that you can't claim outdoor roaming mobs and there is no mention of 'monopolizing zones' which seems difficult to even prove. I personally can't check on all mobs to see if they are ALL up at any given time. It takes time to run to the other side of the zone and see if those mobs are even up. I just don't quite get how we, as players, can determine when a zone is 'monopolized'.

As I said above, I can only interpret the rules as saying 'start petitioning anytime there aren't mobs to pull near you and you see a bard kiting in a zone'. It just seems like 'when is a zone monopolized' is a difficult question for both player and GM to answer.

[runlvlzero]

PvP in red in OT

[kenzar]

Originally Posted by indiscriminate_hater [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also, the context of these quotes is you trying to argue why you deserve easy pulls in a game that is anything but.

Someone with a brain decides to join the thread. I thought I was the only one. Everything OP has said is the tune of "I want to make the game easier for me, because Im special. If you dont acknowledge that I'm special than you aren't providing constructive criticism." Welcome to Project1999 where you are not a unique flower, Buma, you are one in a crowd and no one is treated any differently than anyone else.

Originally Posted by skipdog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ok, I found it. Thanks.

We need our 'Server Rules' post updated if one GM is going to change the server rules and expect everybody to have seen the post he made at some point. Because isn't Sirkin basically saying, 'If you don't see any mobs around and spot a bard with a HUGE train, just petition, as that bard is breaking the rules of monopolizing a zone'.

Am I missing something? It seems like it would be extremely hard to enforce the 'monopolizing zones' rule. This just goes against what is established as the rules and even against what many people here seem to believe the rules are. The fact is, the server rules specifically state that you can't claim outdoor roaming mobs and there is no mention of 'monopolizing zones' which seems difficult to even prove. I personally can't check on all mobs to see if they are ALL up at any given time. It takes time to run to the other side of the zone and see if those mobs are even up. I just don't quite get how we, as players, can determine when a zone is 'monopolized'.

As I said above, I can only interpret the rules as saying 'start petitioning anytime there aren't mobs to pull near you and you see a bard kiting in a zone'. It just seems like 'when is a zone monopolized' is a difficult question for both player and GM to answer.

If a GM is going to "change" camp rules on the fly but can't be bothered to alter the the threads detailing camp rules what validity do the changes really have? None. Without any sort of update to the existing Camps, Defined thread no one can be expected to read every thread where some GM might have made some sort of ruling that flies in the face of the existing ruleset. To think so is ludicrous, almost as ludicrous as trying to invoke them as a player in a thread like this lol. What some GM said in some random thread means nothing until the charter of camp rules is altered to reflect those changes; until then it's business as usual. Carry on.

On a side note, if monopolizing is against the rules I should be burned at the stake. I've monopolized Sro AC for months, made well over a million plat and never got anything that even resembled disapproval from the staff. Well, except that one time Rogean thought I was duping AC rings during the DDoS days, but that was cleared up, again with no disapproval of what I was actually doing, which was monopolizing.

[Edame]

^ This guy needs to chill.

Originally Posted by skipdog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ok, I found it. Thanks.

We need our 'Server Rules' post updated if one GM is going to change the server rules and expect everybody to have seen the post he made at some point. Because isn't Sirkin basically saying, 'If you don't see any mobs around and spot a bard with a HUGE train, just petition, as that bard is breaking the rules of monopolizing a zone'.

Am I missing something? It seems like it would be extremely hard to enforce the 'monopolizing zones' rule. This just goes against what is established as the rules and even against what many people here seem to believe the rules are. The fact is, the server rules specifically state that you can't claim outdoor roaming mobs and there is no mention of 'monopolizing zones' which seems difficult to even prove. I personally can't check on all mobs to see if they are ALL up at any given time. It takes time to run to the other side of the zone and see if those mobs are even up. I just don't quite get how we, as players, can determine when a zone is 'monopolized'.

As I said above, I can only interpret the rules as saying 'start petitioning anytime there aren't mobs to pull near you and you see a bard kiting in a zone'. It just seems like 'when is a zone monopolized' is a difficult question for both player and GM to answer.

It would be a messy rule, but I think this whole issue needs to be addressed by the staff with a clear outline on what is and isn't allowed.

The only thing that is annoying to me is when Bards grief entire newbie zones just to power level people for money. Here is an example: A Bard pulled the entire zone of Field of Bone all day to power-level someone. I do question whether this kind of zone disruption should be allowed in a purely newbie zone. Maybe make exceptions where Bard zones like Overthere and South Karana are OK to do it? I don't know, I'm just saying what I think might be fairest to everyone involved, not what the rules currently are or necessarily should be.

[Weekapaug]

Originally Posted by kenzar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've monopolized Sro AC for months, made well over a million plat

^^confirmed nutsack.

[kenzar]

I dont understand where you get the impression that im some how emotionally invested in this. Let me be clear, i dont have or ever had a bard. Im just an advocate for those whose right to play within the rules is being trounced on. If a gm were to rule against it right now it would effect me none.

Besides, the "no monopolizing" ruling all of you are refrencing is in regards to indoor zones with static spawns. Something the existing ruleset is already clear about. OT is an outdoor zone with dynamic spawns and the existing rules are clear anout that. Its fte, plain and simple