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Old 11-12-2013, 02:31 AM
Cyph Cyph is offline
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I never ask for pp but still always thank the person when they tip. CRs and lowbies I don't expect anything from but I've had level 50s+ ask me for a port then run off. If the port is out of my way (i.e. some effort is involved or I'm not actively porting at that time), then yeah, I expect something in return.
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Old 11-12-2013, 06:52 PM
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I never ask for pp but still always thank the person when they tip. CRs and lowbies I don't expect anything from but I've had level 50s+ ask me for a port then run off. If the port is out of my way (i.e. some effort is involved or I'm not actively porting at that time), then yeah, I expect something in return.
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Old 11-12-2013, 08:22 PM
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I don't log on to port people, I have my own agenda with things to accomplish. Porting takes away from that, and a very significant amount of time. I have made a no port list to include people that have asked me to go a good ways out of my way to port them and I get nothing in return? Why??

If druids and wizards want to ask or require money for ports, good for them. They are spending their time doing what they want and being productive on their part, so the people wanting these ports can increase their own productive time in game. If this is a semantics rant, "accepting donations" vs "porting for plat", move on, who cares

to the OP, "technically a free service"? maybe to you
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Old 11-12-2013, 08:29 PM
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I think the issue here is not paying for ports, but being honest in your intentions.

Let people know you require X amount of PP per port, otherwise don't whine when they don't pay you what you think you're worth.

EDIT: Also, be clear about shit. If you charge twinks based on their gear, let them know. If you charge people based on their level, let them know.

Calling it a donation when you clearly have a price attached is just retarded.
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Old 11-12-2013, 08:46 PM
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Calling it a donation when you clearly have a price attached is just retarded.
Justifying being a cheap-ass bastard because you don't like the way they advertise a SERVICE TO YOU = equally, if not more retarded.
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Old 11-12-2013, 08:47 PM
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This is why I never have said I am porting for donations. I am providing a service and using my personal time to do so, with a clear goal in mind: increasing my weight in platinum.

Therefore, I will /ooc "Porting for PLAT..." not, "Porting for donations..."

Whether someone is doing it for donations, or doing it as a clear service, they are using their personal time to decrease your travel time significantly. Perhaps they just don't have the courage or audacity to tell it like it is, they want your money or items for giving you fast travel at the expense of their own personal time.
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Old 11-12-2013, 08:53 PM
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My perspective on porting.

I port when it doesn't inconvenience me greatly.
I port when I want to make money.
I port when I'm not busy.
I will help you out when I can.
I have never asked for anything, but I do expect common courtesy.
On my alts who do not port, I VERY often run anything less than 20 minutes, that's just me.
Common courtesy:
1) Be nice
2) Understand that time is being spent to help the portee out, and subtracted from the porter
3) Donate unless you are on a CR or can't afford it and make the non-donation known before the port. "need a port for CR"
4) Help the porter help you. RUN TO A RING/SPIRE. Don't ask someone to come pick you up in a zone without a port location and then tip 15 plat. Preferably be at the ring/spire when you ask. Make it quick and painless.

If common courtesies can't be met, just run.

It's a pretty rare thing that I'll change a bind point to accommodate a random port request, so don't get mad if a druid/wiz is running through BFE and doesn't want to port you and spend 15 minutes re-running through kunark from DL.

I do not take money from friends, guildmates, and most acquaintances for ports.
I do not take ~5 plat donations from low levels

I do not port when in groups or exp'ing unless ready to stop. (some people have gotten upset that I wouldn't drop to take them)
I do not port from EC to LS, seriously, 5 minutes with no sow.

Wizards and druids who arent anon or RP are flooded with port tells constantly. It is tiring at times and just understand that. Other times I and we are happy to *help* you.
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Old 11-12-2013, 08:55 PM
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This whole thread is surely a troll. A level 29 druid spends on average 5-10 minutes of his leisure gaming time medding, waiting, or running to port your lazy ass so that you don't have to spend 10-30 minutes of your leisure gaming time getting from point A to point B. Don't be a jackass and get pissed off if he asks something for his time.
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Old 11-12-2013, 08:55 PM
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If you want to be able to port everywhere for free... play live?
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Old 11-12-2013, 08:56 PM
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This is why I never have said I am porting for donations. I am providing a service and using my personal time to do so, with a clear goal in mind: increasing my weight in platinum.

Therefore, I will /ooc "Porting for PLAT..." not, "Porting for donations..."

Whether someone is doing it for donations, or doing it as a clear service, they are using their personal time to decrease your travel time significantly. Perhaps they just don't have the courage or audacity to tell it like it is, they want your money or items for giving you fast travel at the expense of their own personal time.
You wanna know why people say donations instead of plat...


It's simple.

When you say donations, you have a chance to get people like me who will pay 150-500+ plat (or item that's worth that much or 3x as much) for a single port.

Where as, if you put a low amount, people are inclined to only pay that, or if you put a high amount, you don't get many takers.

Basically, saying you port for a donation = more $$$

The donation system works best, mainly because you earn more from the people who can spare it (the high levels) and the people who can't end up still able to grab ports (the low levels). You alienate less people.

Sadly, high level jewbags like to take advantage of the system because they don't want to come off a few extra PPs
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