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[heazels]

Originally Posted by kbnexus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you are afflicted with the need to believe something I have very little interest in convincing you of something. Belief often times isn't subject to rational examination of evidence and is more a personal choice.

So if you want to talk about what you believe, I don't give a shit. If you want to talk about truth and facts.... let me know.

Fact: 86 accounts of TMO banned

Fact: 2 members exploted to gain platinum and are now banned

Fact: platlord.com is now empty and devoid of items

Fact: nobody knows how many of the 87 accounts were bought with duped platinum or were pleveld with duped platinum

Fact: the exploit started 1 year ago

Facts look pretty clear to me

[Lisset]

One way to end some of this acrimony going forward is to make sharing accounts a bannable offense. You share, you lose. If you can't raid using nothing but your own hard work, you don't deserve to raid. If you have to have shared trackers and porters, you just suck anyway.

[Furniture]

hah well i didnt realize you were alarti but i deduced your tinfoil hat bitchery from your post where you say that this is just so rogean can have his IB friends back or whatever

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by kbnexus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do you want me to post the pastebin of the SEQ accounts? I think they are actually still on the p99 forums. I remember Najdorf being one of the suspended people.

Yes Alarti, if you are going to make a claim I'm going to ask you to back up said claim with data. That's how these things work. Additionally, let's not breeze past the fact that Amelinda and Tiggles were e-humping at the time the SEQ sweep came down which would have given TMO warning that the hammer was coming down. Whether she sounded the alarm or not it stands to reason that the improper relationship could have possibly benefited your guild.

[Pheer]

Originally Posted by skipdog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes, I understand completely. That's a totally respectable position to have. I know account sharing does happen in other guilds and my only point was that I'll bet tons of people would be on that other guild's side if the same thing happened to them because of account sharing.... just because they 'aren't TMO'. My only point is that I'll bet many people's opinions would change if 'TMO' was almost any other guild name with most other factors in the reasoning for all of the account suspensions being the same.

And you guys are too busy whining about how unfair that is to see WHY thats happening. You guys seriously think your terrible reputation is just a result of people being "jelly of your pixels" or some shit. If you want to see an example of why people think you're all scum just go take a look at Eccezan's post history over the past day or two. "I dont approve of what my guildmates do!" is not a valid defense, staying quiet and allowing your guildmates and officers to make you all look like a bunch of shitstains makes you just as responsible for your negative image.

What happened to when TMO was trying to act like some kind of white knights protecting the server? All that shit about how you'd "never let the sleeper be woken" so those dirty casuals you despise so much would be able to get primals some day (on a date and time of your choosing of course since you feel like you should get to decide who does or doesn't get to kill raid content.)

Did you guys forget which mask you were trying to put on or does the leadership really have so little control over their members that they couldn't rein in the constant shit talk against even guilds like BDA for daring to try to kill classic content that you zerg with your geared up 52 alts? God forbid a guild dare to take a fucking Vox kill off of you 4 years after server release.

[Tasslehofp99]

I can't even stop refreshing, I don't want to miss a second of this meltdown.

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by Eccezan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If this server goes full mob rotation, there will be a steep decline in the population of hardcores that play as well as any competition involved in getting mobs.

OH GOD THE HORROR

[arsenalpow]

I appreciate everyone piling on TMO but all this "change for the benefit of the server" rhetoric is the same speech I've been giving since BDA gave me a platform. We as a server could have done this sooner, but if the impetus for change is this ban then let's actually do something. We have two weeks to prove that this place doesn't have to be a shit show.

[kbnexus]

Originally Posted by Furniture [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

hah well i didnt realize you were alarti but i deduced your tinfoil hat bitchery from your post where you say that this is just so rogean can have his IB friends back or whatever

How long have you been on this server?

[Mezzmur]

Originally Posted by Lisset [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

One way to end some of this acrimony going forward is to make sharing accounts a bannable offense. You share, you lose. If you can't raid using nothing but your own hard work, you don't deserve to raid. If you have to have shared trackers and porters, you just suck anyway.

Yeah, this sucks. I went on hiatus and let one toon be used for VP raids; it's now banned because one of the exploiting individuals played on this account for a VP raid (unbeknownst to me). So 3rd party sharing of info ftw. Doing house cleaning today, changing PWs and all that jazz. It's really shitty that a few can ruin it for so many.