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[citizen1080]

Good work all around Rogean. Server raid scene has been toxic for a very long time (and no i'm not just talking about TMO, all the guilds need to grow up and work together. Cockblocking other guilds and general asshatery was fun and all when we were all 14 years old but guess what, we have all grown up and are adults now. We should be able to be better than classic...not worse. Hope this is the start of something good.

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by Fountree [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

After letting this post settle in for awhile, I've come to the conclusion that this post by Rogean has damaged the in-game reputations of countless people in TMO and outside of TMO who didn't in fact cheat or do anything wrong besides give their info out to someone they trusted but was in-fact breaking server rules. Call it what you want but the decision to punish us this way imo isn't an objective decision - this was a decision meant to destroy a guild for 3 people's actions. Yes, there are people who need bans especially if specific evidence was provided to our guildleaders and the community. My characters were not banned and I didn't knowingly associate with cheaters or dupers. Yet the guild name is now destroyed because of this angry reaction. Was this meant shake things up at the top? Unless the basic philosophy of the raiding scene on this server is changed in detail (waiting for Nilbog and Rogean comments on how that will go specifically - enforced rotation, etc.), nothing is going to change. There will just be another raid guild on top dominating in 6 months, probably with no Velious still. If it doesn't exist now it will be created in the future.

I'm going to keep this civil since it's in the news section.

Please re-read Rogean's post and realize it wasn't just the actions of 3 people that led to where you're at now. The actions of dozens of people have been judged here. If you think you're going to come back from a suspension and do the same things you did the in past, but with 3 fewer people, you're going to be even more sore later. Your toxic attitude towards raiding will not be accepted going forward.

[Aaron]

Originally Posted by Fountree [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

After letting this post settle in for awhile, I've come to the conclusion that this post by Rogean has damaged the in-game reputations of countless people in TMO and outside of TMO who didn't in fact cheat or do anything wrong besides give their info out to someone they trusted but was in-fact breaking server rules. Call it what you want but the decision to punish us this way imo isn't an objective decision - this was a decision meant to destroy a guild for 3 people's actions. Yes, there are people who need bans especially if specific evidence was provided to our guildleaders and the community. My characters were not banned and I didn't knowingly associate with cheaters or dupers. Yet the guild name is now destroyed because of this angry reaction. Was this meant shake things up at the top? Unless the basic philosophy of the raiding scene on this server is changed in detail (waiting for Nilbog and Rogean comments on how that will go specifically - enforced rotation, etc.), nothing is going to change. There will just be another raid guild on top dominating in 6 months, probably with no Velious still. If it doesn't exist now it will be created in the future.

If you read the post, the toxic raid atmosphere promoted and perpetuated by TMO is also on blast.

Every single member is guilty of this. Even you.

[JackFlash]

(waiting for Nilbog and Rogean comments on how that will go specifically - enforced rotation, etc.),

They already commented. Either shape up or velious will be released without raid content. They want us to grow up and do it ourselves.

[Trelaboon]

I think taking away raid content, would just increase the amount of TMO and BDA douche baggery that happens at all non-raid, awesome loot camps. Otherwise, I LOVE this post; thanks so much for keeping this stuff classic!

[pharmakos]

Originally Posted by citizen1080 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

we have all grown up and are adults now. We should be able to be better than classic...not worse.

quoted for truth

[planeofdreams]

This server is the best.

[Xelris]

The two dupers... are you banning MAC addresses as well as IP? Money can make people surprisingly resilient.

[SamwiseRed]

Ban em all. That is all

[citizen1080]

Originally Posted by Xelris [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The two dupers... are you banning MAC addresses as well as IP? Money can make people surprisingly resilient.

There is no way to keep them off the server if they don't want to be kept off. MAC addresses can be spoofed. IP's can be changed, VPN's can be used.