OFFICIAL PROPOSAL from FE/TMO - Page 22

Buriedpast · #**211** 12-30-2013, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by heals4reals [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How do I get my guild on the raid rotation if it's not one of the ones listed on OP?

I suggest you do this, by being a guild for 30 days,

And by on a repop situation, you are able to kill 2-3 mobs in competition with all other guilds. If you can not mobilise to kill maestro then tal then fay for instance, while 5 other guilds go for vs trak etc etc etc, then you got no place in an agreement standing on own two feet.

If you can not, you should look at making an alliance so a lower guild is now competitive at higher level mobs.

-Catherin- · #**212** 12-30-2013, 10:33 PM

I'll make this clear too.

Im more than willing to be raid suspended for a week, or a month, or longer, if that's what its going to take for a proper agreement for everyone. This doesn't hurt me. This doesn't hurt the smaller guilds. Taken looses the respectable number of targets we get but it also gives us a break from this toxicity in the promise of something better in the future for all of us.

Not sure if I can say that about everyone in the top Guilds though so you had better think about that.

Lazie · #**213** 12-30-2013, 10:33 PM

You have to tier the raid scene. I have to agree with the masses here this is not enough.

VP/Trak/Gore/Talendor/Maestro/Draco should be the only portions of the server that stays FFA. Maestro and Draco largely because of their sporadic spawns and Talendor/Gore due to their largely low need by everyone else. Trak/VP stays FFA so people have to earn their way to the top tier of the raid scene.

IF you raid in VP Naggy/Vox becomes off limits completely.

The other mobs...

Fay,Inny,Sev,VS,CT need to either be put on a bag limit by the larger guilds or an all out rotation by all guilds.

It will be the only system that you will get the majority to agree to. I have been saying it for a week now.

YendorLootmonkey · #**214** 12-30-2013, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jaybone [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I would find it extremeley sad if a guild made an alt guild so they could cheese their way into a rotation.

There would be an investigation if the guild council votes on it, GMs could compare the IPs/accounts for both guilds, and if found a significant number of a guild's alts were in the guild, the both guilds would have their points allocation would be set to ZERO until the alts were removed. Granted, this would take a lot of CSR work so that's why the monthly quota is stripped from BOTH guilds as a "M.A.D."-style deterrent.

The only reason I can think of to have your alts in another guild is to a) spy, or b) because you hate the guild your main is in and need to take a break from your guildmates, which is sad... but go join a non-raiding guild for that then.

Magicant · #**215** 12-30-2013, 10:36 PM

Im serious, the real way to make this fun is to limit the # of people that can engage a mob. 50 people on Trak is boring.

What about "tier 1 guilds" get 25 people.. tier 2 get 27 Tier 3 get 30.

Just tossing it out there. The real issue with the raid scene is zerging shit till it dies. Lets go to a more fun, skill based system of raiding.

Frieza_Prexus · #**216** 12-30-2013, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Magicant [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Im serious, the real way to make this fun is to limit the # of people that can engage a mob. 50 people on Trak is boring.

What about "tier 1 guilds" get 25 people.. tier 2 get 27 Tier 3 get 30.

Just tossing it out there. The real issue with the raid scene is zeroing shit till it dies. Lets go to a more fun, skill based system of raiding.

Impossible for established guilds. Strictures would cause implosions and create more guilds vying for the same content. Keep in mind that demand for content is generally based around the number of guilds killing a mob not the number of players in each guild.

Bossman · #**217** 12-30-2013, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Magicant [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Im serious, the real way to make this fun is to limit the # of people that can engage a mob. 50 people on Trak is boring.

What about "tier 1 guilds" get 25 people.. tier 2 get 27 Tier 3 get 30.

Just tossing it out there. The real issue with the raid scene is zerging shit till it dies. Lets go to a more fun, skill based system of raiding.

Lol

YendorLootmonkey · #**218** 12-30-2013, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Hitpoint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Any now inny is a sure thing for them and we don't stand a chance. Pretty smart strat for them imo. They chose a messy mob to go after, we have the same problems with trains etc. If they camp at VS room instead do you not think they'd get a few of those with no trains at all? Sev pull spot? They can still get every inny with this agreement, plus an even easier one once a month.

Does her post really sound to you like this is something they (or any guild not TMO/FE/IB) wants to do long term? Catherin, as you are the primary tracker and you gave us a candid response... is it?

benjay · #**219** 12-30-2013, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There would be an investigation if the guild council votes on it, GMs could compare the IPs/accounts for both guilds, and if found a significant number of a guild's alts were in the guild, the both guilds would have their points allocation would be set to ZERO until the alts were removed. Granted, this would take a lot of CSR work so that's why the monthly quota is stripped from BOTH guilds as a "M.A.D."-style deterrent.

The only reason I can think of to have your alts in another guild is to a) spy, or b) because you hate the guild your main is in and need to take a break from your guildmates, which is sad... but go join a non-raiding guild for that then.

That would in no way stop TMO splitting into 3 guilds and taking the majority of the loot in any way, as there is no way you could prove that they are linked, there guild bank is probably at a point where they could split it 3 ways and sell each other loot and thats a basic example, the best way to solve this issue is to release velious as there are not enough raid encounters currently for the population of the server to contest fairly

-Catherin- · #**220** 12-30-2013, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by CodyF86 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No other guild showed up because everyone wants to leave him up.

Aaradin
The A-Team

it has been mentioned Aaradin. if that's how its really going to be then of course im sure Taken would comply. please don't hint at imaginary motives [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]