OFFICIAL PROPOSAL from FE/TMO

[heazels]

Originally Posted by Versus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Go play WoW if you want your rotational instanced bullshit.

wow is actually harder than this game when you camp out players at a mob and log in when you get a text message. You have a better chance of dieing in wow

[sanforce]

Originally Posted by heazels [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

wow is actually harder than this game when you camp out players at a mob and log in when you get a text message. You have a better chance of dieing in wow

Sorry, but alts are part of this raid scene too. If someone wants to work hard and get multiple level 60s, they deserve to use those characters. Whether in a primary guild or a secondary one, alts are going to be used. Choosing to camp a main or alt at a raid target is a strategy that was used in classic eq, not sure why it is an issue here.

[heazels]

If you killed more than half the dragons in VP at any point in the last spawn set, you cannot kill any dragons outside of VP for two weeks.

[Xadion]

Originally Posted by heazels [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you killed more than half the dragons in VP at any point in the last spawn set, you cannot kill any dragons outside of VP for two weeks.

people would leave SW, Druu, and Xyggy up and kill PD Hosh and Nexo... Maybe a druushy every now and then for a sow sword or a SW for PE hammer but they would just not kill nexo then..

seriously people, Velious, Hate 2.0 and CT 2.0 (epic drop changes) would solve a ton of issues... The sheer number of things to do a single guild cannot keep everything on lockdown, and if they do - bravo that's insane.

if the variances are changed to a few hours, so that repops tend to overlap guilds will have to choose targets, longer velious raids will allow other guilds to take shots at stuff.

if tunare, dain and yeilinak are all up you must choose wisely...and no option 4 is not, zerg Dain rush yili and leapfrog the guild at tunare

tunare encounter needs a rule to itself, like 3 mini bosses secures your attempt or something.

[Mezzmur]

Originally Posted by -Catherin- [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'll make this clear too.

Im more than willing to be raid suspended for a week, or a month, or longer, if that's what its going to take for a proper agreement for everyone. This doesn't hurt me. This doesn't hurt the smaller guilds. Taken looses the respectable number of targets we get but it also gives us a break from this toxicity in the promise of something better in the future for all of us.

Not sure if I can say that about everyone in the top Guilds though so you had better think about that.

Hate, Fear and Sky off limits too. This is a loss for everyone, really.

[Erati]

pretty sure Sky has nothing to do with the 'raid' agreement we are trying to make as there has been no mention of changing anything about Sky except maybe the Efreetis

but nice try.....

even if we are banned from raiding Sky we will just quietly refresh our corpses :P

[Mezzmur]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Go play Red if you want to fight and work for mobs.

There's a difference between attacking PCs to get to the PVE content vs racing and putting time into a game to get PVE content.

Just like playing any other game on earth you get out what you put in. It's just that EQ was always a more time dependent game which is why so many hardcore gamers loved it.

[Mezzmur]

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

pretty sure Sky has nothing to do with the 'raid' agreement we are trying to make as there has been no mention of changing anything about Sky except maybe the Efreetis

but nice try.....

even if we are banned from raiding Sky we will just quietly refresh our corpses :P

I'm telling you said that all planes are off limits in a raid suspension period. They said this last night in sirkens stream if we hit the Jan2 deadline.

They also said they will very likely not repop rotted corpses due to suspensions. Both questions asked explicitly last night.

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by sanforce [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sorry, but alts are part of this raid scene too. If someone wants to work hard and get multiple level 60s, they deserve to use those characters. Whether in a primary guild or a secondary one, alts are going to be used. Choosing to camp a main or alt at a raid target is a strategy that was used in classic eq, not sure why it is an issue here.

I think everyone can agree that 3 years of Kunark and free accounts makes the prevalence of Alts being used on raids way more common here than it was on classic. And camping out at targets, to the point of "accountx is my Trakanon toon"... No.

[Nlaar]

Originally Posted by Mezzmur [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm telling you said that all planes are off limits in a raid suspension period. They said this last night in sirkens stream if we hit the Jan2 deadline.

They also said they will very likely not repop rotted corpses due to suspensions. Both questions asked explicitly last night.

Again, it would be great if these types of statements & decisions were posted on the forums in an official thread instead of hearing second hand about a stream conversation. Ridiculous.