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Old 01-06-2014, 05:02 AM
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Old 01-06-2014, 05:02 AM
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If there was justice Euros would have their own server
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Old 01-06-2014, 05:16 AM
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the Guilds will continue their discussions to improve the raid scene here on project 1999, and we will ensure that no one side can try to strong arm or hold any one other side
Tier 1 guilds got everything they wanted (minus Naggy and Vox (lol)) plus 1-2 more repops out of this "agreement". All the leverage of the casual guilds has been removed. I don't expect there to be any more talks, but I hope I'm wrong.
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Old 01-06-2014, 05:59 AM
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What he said,

at least let us Euros refresh sky keys today etc
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Let us at least go up today in the same therms as the rest of the server. 6PM EAST is 12PM here, on monday.
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Old 01-06-2014, 08:05 AM
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what about nobles on respawn? they only spawn on a 7 day timer....t1 guilds no longer going to be able to do them?
t1 guilds can race for 2nd two repops of the month so if you are so inclined to go after noble first then by all means you can still "compete" for him.
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Old 01-06-2014, 08:23 AM
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Interested to see how this all works out in practice. People slating it haven't seen it working yet, so hold the criticism (for now) [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 01-06-2014, 08:58 AM
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By the amount of whining done, i'd say good job. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Except by TMO, IB, FE, BDA you mean right? "We are not only not going to punish you for being complete D-bags to the server for years" We are going to give the casual scum a couple pops to fight over a month between 5-10 guilds that will be completely separate from yours, AND we are going to give you MQ champions (2-3 guilds, 1/4 the people) even MORE loot for your troubles. Hooray!" So like how are ANY of the simulated repop dragons aside from VP open to Tier1? Won't they have enough grief with the normal pops that they have already been getting for 2-3 years AND full VP repops as well? I know, this is better than it was, and that is AWESOME.. but I just don't see how Tier 2 players, who now have a chance of getting a slice of the pie, should be happy about Tier 1 players getting to keep their ENTIRE pie, and get another pie as well? If anyone should be happy about this, it should be T1, they gained more than anyone.. couldn't see that coming.
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Old 01-06-2014, 09:09 AM
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There are two ways repops can be implemented, which is it?
1) Repops will NOT affect timers of their raid mobs.
2) Repops WILL affect timers of their raid mobs.

If they do not affect them, then it is a net increase in raid mobs. If they do affect them, then the increase is minimalized and we essentially trade individual variance for all-raid-mobs variance.
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Old 01-06-2014, 09:12 AM
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Wee separating people by tiers. Good job everyone.
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Old 01-06-2014, 09:18 AM
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Except by TMO, IB, FE, BDA you mean right? "We are not only not going to punish you for being complete D-bags to the server for years" We are going to give the casual scum a couple pops to fight over a month between 5-10 guilds that will be completely separate from yours, AND we are going to give you MQ champions (2-3 guilds, 1/4 the people) even MORE loot for your troubles. Hooray!" So like how are ANY of the simulated repop dragons aside from VP open to Tier1? Won't they have enough grief with the normal pops that they have already been getting for 2-3 years AND full VP repops as well? I know, this is better than it was, and that is AWESOME.. but I just don't see how Tier 2 players, who now have a chance of getting a slice of the pie, should be happy about Tier 1 players getting to keep their ENTIRE pie, and get another pie as well? If anyone should be happy about this, it should be T1, they gained more than anyone.. couldn't see that coming.
It's probably something that is still open to some tweaking. Besides, "Tier 2 players" should be less concerned with what is happening to "Tier 1 players" and more concerned with what is happening to them. The goal here wasn't to punish TMO. The goal was to open up the raid scene. (Well I guess technically the goal was to reduce petitions).


The thing I dislike about this system is the way VP works. We all know that the line between "hardcore" raiders and "casual" raiders is primarily the lengths that the former are willing to go to in order to secure a kill. They'll track, have batphone lists, zerg up their guild to ensure the ability to track and field a raid force at any time of day or night, etc. The latter won't generally do that stuff.

So why is the thing that qualifies a guild for Tier 1 attempting to kill a VP dragon? That doesn't indicate that guild wants to track, batphone, zerg, or become involved in the drama that is always surrounding those top guilds. It really does feel like this is intended to be a punishment for any Tier 2 guild trying to down a VP dragon.
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