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[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Nefarum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You know full well, as does everyone, that FFA mobs are almost just C mobs essentially, because until a guild is at the point where they can compete with C guilds they have next to no chance on them.

Right. We get it. It's far easier for you to target smaller guilds like Europa and Knights Who Say Ni -- who have specifically chosen not to go the Class C route so that they may enjoy competing against the mob itself instead of other players -- and then force them back into the type of competition we have already demonstrated all of Tier R does not want to be a part of.

[Coolname]

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Dolj wouldn't be losing to europa on fay tags if they had TMO/IB/FE support

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Nefarum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Some of them, not every one. Once again, the opinions of some can't just be imposed on others.

So it is okay for Dojo to impose their opinion on how raiding should be done within Tier R on 7-8 other guilds though?

[Nefarum]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So when one guild doesn't respect that agreement, they are basically turning the rest of the guilds against them.

That's Doljo's choice and their right, and will be their fault if it works out poorly for them. Doesn't make them assholes.

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just find it particularly convenient that one guild doesn't want to play nice with what the rest of the guilds in Tier R have set up, and they seem to have Class C support, even after a raid agreement was decided on that gives Class C around 3-4 extra repops of Veeshan's Peak a month ALL TO THEMSELVES. Just seems fishy to me. I hope the devs launch a full investigation into how many Class C alts are in Dojo to skirt around the Class C/R restrictions, and guildban accordingly.

Considering the results so far, organization, and how things have gone so far on raid mobs this idea is pretty fucking laughable. Time to take off the tinfoil hat.

[Nefarum]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So it is okay for Dojo to impose their opinion on how raiding should be done within Tier R on 7-8 other guilds though?

Doljo isn't imposing anything on anyone. They're just operating within how the game and this server have been set up by default.

[Sarius]

Props to Bob, do your thing and make R interesting.

[Kagatob]

Originally Posted by Nefarum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's Doljo's choice and their right, and will be their fault if it works out poorly for them. Doesn't make them assholes.

That's actually the only thing it does.

[Barahir]

Originally Posted by Nefarum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Some of them, not every one. Once again, the opinions of some can't just be imposed on others.

Did you not read what I said or did you intentionally only quote part of what I said?


Basically it sounds to me like you'd be completely okay with 1 or 2 guilds disregarding the sky rotation

[Nefarum]

Originally Posted by Kagatob [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's actually the only thing it does.

Using that logic, then you could also argue that the rest of the guilds are assholes for taking the competition out of R tier and ruining how Doljo would like to play the game. One argument is just as valid as the other (aka, neither are valid).

This is about enough RnF for me, I've said my piece.

[Nefarum]

Originally Posted by Barahir [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Did you not read what I said or did you intentionally only quote part of what I said?


Basically it sounds to me like you'd be completely okay with 1 or 2 guilds disregarding the sky rotation

Sky is a bit trickier of a situation and I can see how it might require some coordination, I'll agree with that. My points were just in regards to the general raid mobs, for which Doljo was getting flak for going after.

I'm not even necessarily against a rotation, it was just bothering me the bullshit being spewed Doljo's way.