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Old 02-01-2014, 12:55 PM
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Ya i dont get it. i Pras'd the first video, it was so weird. A+ really. I didn't think the second one was funny but it didnt bother me. Third one was just bad taste. I pvp red dawn and nilly, I also have friends in both. To say I was offended because of who put it out kinda shows you are way to involved in an elf sim. It aint that serious for me.
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Old 02-01-2014, 12:58 PM
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How is children reading words from a chalk board during their school lesson while earning income for their books and supplies considered exploitation? Can we use some common sense here? That's like saying that school children here in America going door to door selling cookies to raise money for school is also exploitation -- sorry but it's not. Anyone who makes a donation to these children is helping them pay for their schooling. Nobody asked them to read anything profane or inappropriate. They are reading words about a video game character, and you are shitting your pants like someone just got murdered.
You really need to read up on exploiting children. You think that guy is gonna say anything other than yes these kids voluntarily do this to fund their education? Not sure if born yesterday or just moran.
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Old 02-01-2014, 12:59 PM
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Ya i dont get it. i Pras'd the first video, it was so weird. A+ really. I didn't think the second one was funny but it didnt bother me. Third one was just bad taste. I pvp red dawn and nilly, I also have friends in both. To say I was offended because of who put it out kinda shows you are way to involved in an elf sim. It aint that serious for me.
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Old 02-01-2014, 01:03 PM
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Who said it was voluntary? School is not voluntary, it's required. Every child there is required, by their parents, and probably the government to attend school. They're also required to learn how to read. One way to learn how to read is to write things on a chalk board and have everyone read it letter-by-letter, word-by-word. If the fact that they earn money for school supplies by reading names of video game characters in addition to what they normally read is bad taste, then that is your personal opinion. I'm sorry to say that if you walk into any school in India and offer them a $5 donation to read words from a chalk board that are neither profane nor inappropriate, nobody will mind. Most schools / teachers / parents will appreciate the donation. Most people there don't make enough to buy supplies on their own, so any little bit helps.

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Old 02-01-2014, 01:08 PM
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Donation or purchase? Generally donations are a one way exchange. You paid some children for services, you did not donate.
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Old 02-01-2014, 01:15 PM
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Donation or purchase? Generally donations are a one way exchange. You paid some children for services, you did not donate.
Assuming they saw a dime which mostly likely they didn't. So you paid an adult for a service that involved kids.
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Old 02-01-2014, 01:28 PM
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How is children reading words from a chalk board during their school lesson while earning income for their books and supplies considered exploitation? Can we use some common sense here? That's like saying that school children here in America going door to door selling cookies to raise money for school is also exploitation -- sorry but it's not. Anyone who makes a donation to these children is helping them pay for their schooling. Nobody asked them to read anything profane or inappropriate. They are reading words about a video game character, and you are shitting your pants like someone just got murdered.
Oh, please the ulterior motive was not to help the children, it was to troll. If you wanted to help them, then there was no need to have them make the video or distribute it.
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Old 02-01-2014, 01:41 PM
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Oh, please the ulterior motive was not to help the children, it was to troll. If you wanted to help them, then there was no need to have them make the video or distribute it.
Ya people that hold events and auctions and sell things where a % goes to charity are all bullshit. They should just donate without any exchange.
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Old 02-01-2014, 01:45 PM
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Ya people that hold events and auctions and sell things where a % goes to charity are all bullshit. They should just donate without any exchange.
Yeah, they should actually. I guess you obviously don't know any marketing strategies.
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Old 02-01-2014, 01:57 PM
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Donation or purchase? Generally donations are a one way exchange. You paid some children for services, you did not donate.
There are millions of children around the world that work as shoe shiners. Maybe you haven't been to a poor country, but you could be anywhere, and they will approach you and start shining your shoes for a few cents. This happens tens of thousands of times per day, and sometimes they are even hard to avoid. If it happens to me, I generously give them 5x or 10x the normal charge. There's nothing wrong with paying for a service and/or donating to children at the same time. When you buy lemonade from a lemonade stand, you are paying children for a product/service. When someone shines your shoes, you are paying for a service. When you buy Nike tennis shoes, you are paying for a product/service often made by children.

I think there's nothing wrong with teaching your children how to earn money at a young age. Whether it be through a lemonade stand, fundraisers through school, or learning to read while accepting donations. From a young age, they can learn to be responsible and learn how people in a free society must work to earn a living. Nothing is given to us for free (Obama might disagree).

I was always taught to work hard even when I was a kid. I had to do those school fundraisers, and for me, it was not voluntary. They required us to do it. I hated it. And I didn't get any of the money. I don't consider that to be exploitation, but I do believe it helps us grow into hard workers.

You can disagree -- everyone is entitled to their opinion. I think the real issues here is that Heartbrand didn't like being in the video. Everyone else in the video sent me a private message (including Sektors, Colgate, etc.) and found it funny. They were actually amused that they made the cut. I guess some people just can't take a joke.

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