Congratulations Lord Bob

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Good post, Kope.

I will rephrase and clarify:

I understand that Doljon haven't always been the nicest kids on the block. Despite what some of you think ("Deru has no clue once again") I see both sides of the fence on this. Why? Because I talk to players, I see petitions, I watch things happen, and I use that to assess situations as they come.

Did Doljon step on some toes when they first got here due to their play-style? Yes, absolutely. They came here to play because it's one of the last bastions of a truly competitive open world raid environment in the MMORPG world. But I believe hate perpetuates hate, and the way the guilds opposite Doljon have handled the situation (I say 'guilds' even though I realize a number of you have tried to be nice, so don't take offense) has not helped the circumstances leading up to this point.

Bottom line is if Doljon wants to compete in Class-R, they should be allowed to without having a legion of people telling them to play their way or GTFO. Especially when the same people telling them to GTFO were told to play their way or GTFO by TMO/FE/IB just a short time ago. That doesn't make sense, and goes against everything a large majority of the people on this server were saying prior to and during the raid discussion talks we just had.

This is my issue. This is why I'm in this thread.

A minority (TMO/FE/IB) were dictating to the rest of the guilds (Divinity/A-Team/Taken/BDA/Azure Guard/other guilds that didn't even bother with raiding due to the toxic raid scene) how to play, causing resentment, disdain, and friction.

Now, another minority (Lord Bob) is trying to dictate to many other guilds (see above for the list) how the Class R raiding is going to work, causing resentment, disdain, and friction.

What is so difficult to understand?

[Raavak]

He sees it all not and just your little corner of Norrath. And he sees it from a viewpoint of not having to compete with them or risk losing loot to them. I think he's spot on calling you guys out for doing exactly the same thing you were complaining other guilds of doing.

[Kagatob]

Deru showing more and more of his bias with each post. Notice how the only ones who are sucking his dick are the TMO posters.

[Splorf22]

Derubael, why the fuck are you and Sirken in here gloating over the fact that the players are being dicks to each other? Why do you guys have such a hard on for people going nuts over a fucking emulated server? It would be one thing if you guys simply said 'hey, these are the server rules, it's up to you to handle player agreements'. Instead you saying 'haha they took your pixels' and posting immature memes.

The incomprehensible position of the staff is why I'm in this thread.

[Man0warr]

I think you people are confusing things here.

No one is stopping Lord Bob from getting on the Class R rotation if they want it.

This issue is about PLANE OF SKY, which is completely separate from Class C/R and I don't even know why people dragged that conversation into it.

PoS is rotated by ALL raid guilds on the server, it's not an issue of casual or hardcore.

[Man0warr]

Originally Posted by Man0warr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think you people are confusing things here.

No one is stopping Lord Bob from getting on the Class R rotation if they want it.

This issue is about PLANE OF SKY, which is completely separate from Class C/R and I don't even know why people dragged that conversation into it.

PoS is rotated by ALL raid guilds on the server, it's not an issue of casual or hardcore - Lord Bob dicking it up affects everyone.

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Raavak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He sees it all not and just your little corner of Norrath. And he sees it from a viewpoint of not having to compete with them or risk losing loot to them. I think he's spot on calling you guys out for doing exactly the same thing you were complaining other guilds of doing.

How is Dojo forcing their competitive style of play on a Class R group of guilds -- who have already demonstrated, by virtue of staying in Class R, that they do not desire to play that way --"forcing Dojo to play our way", when there is the FFA class of mob spawns for everyone to compete in a "gentlemanly manner" for?

[Raavak]

I don't get the impression anyone in TMO really gives a crap, except that a bunch of guilds are ganging up on some little new guild that doesn't have a kill, and trying really, really hard to make sure they don't get any.

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by Fael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wonder what the terms were....
/shrug

Dolic

Dolic, what the fuck do you think I said to them? "OH WE'RE DOING A ROTATION, WE'LL LET YOU HAVE MAESTRO?". I told them I would support them if they wanted to join the rotation.

It seems like all of the pro-competition people are just in here gloating about how 'well, we can't fuck with the casual guilds, but at least they can'. Don't you have anything better to do?

[Red_Psyphon]

Derubael is right. Wasn't long ago most guilds were crying about having raid terms dictated. Now who's dictating?