GM's.. Are you listening?

[mikemandella]

Originally Posted by HippoNipple [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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It's okay though, having a job will pay off in Velious when we are playing on the server uncontested.

Literally adding nothing. I do not care what side you are on. Cmon bro we all know your feelings. Let's help Derubael find a solution for change not another reason to write our community off as a "lost cause"..

Thanks!

- Oppressor

[big mouth chew]

Originally Posted by bigshowtime [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

sounds pretty red to me

this

[mikemandella]

Originally Posted by Mac Dretti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

O a guy that doesn't play is threatening to not play if gms don't change ruleset

Better cave into his terrorist demands

I agree with Retti on this... I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the player base has no leverage.. Right now RED99 is something the staff tolerates do to years of ass hattery on both sides.. We all walk a very fine line.. Let's not look a gift horse in the mouth... They are trying to communicate.. surprise them as a community and add something to the talk!

- Oppressor

[Eslade]

We need more ideas about how to encourage people to start from scratch. We're concentrating too much on raiding and not enough on people starting here. We have make it attractive to newer players to come here instead of blue. Obviously the xp isn't incentive enough. We have to corral the new players and make them want to stay in the same zone. That way even with a low pop, you won't be alone all the time.

[mikemandella]

I think we all agree on that Eslade. I'd say one step at a time right now. There are a lot of good ideas to make it a better and easier ride for new comers..

Durubael want's to know the PRO's and CON's of simulated repops do you have anything you'd add to that topic?

- Oppressor

[mikemandella]

Here is a good place to start...

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Arguments against repops:

1) Tough luck to the other guilds. Either man up and contest or don't.

2) End game isn't for everyone

3) Will result in more items "flooding" the game

4) Seems anti-competitive

5) Seems to favor one guild [red dawn]

Reasons FOR repops

1) Server is incredibly stagnant in it's current state which has led to a declining population with multiple people stating they have quit because of it

2) Due to the incredibly infrequency of resets here compared to live or even with blue with variance, one unfavorable reset @ an odd hour can result in months in a row of mobs @ awful times that a majority of players can never hope to attend, thereby completely restricting access to the game to a significant % of players

3) Could result in higher pop and serve as a catalyst to bringing some people back, which could very well result in bigger scale pvp battles

4) Some of the most exciting pvp is that which is "spontaneous" on the spot with two guilds struggling to bat phone and rush mobs, whereas "planned" pvp is usually decided hours ahead of the battle by whoever has more logged on level 60's

5) Repops are classic, 3 months + of no repops where timers barely move is not

6) Zero long term damage can come from a test run of it

7) Will desperately be needed for Velious where the gear difference can become too large to be gapped in planned guild v guild battles

8) Allows for potentially even a third or fourth guild, particularly in Velious, to rise up

If we can all agree those are the main reasons people are in favor... Can we get some counter's to the "reasons for" HB listed? All feedback is welcome!

Thanks guys,

- Oppressor

[Eslade]

Originally Posted by mikemandella [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think we all agree on that Eslade. I'd say one step at a time right now. There are a lot of good ideas to make it a better and easier ride for new comers..

Durubael want's to know the PRO's and CON's of simulated repops do you have anything you'd add to that topic?

- Oppressor

Yeah, randomly spawn 3-5 boss mobs at different times during the week on top of the 7 day rotation.
Example:
Cazic Thule spawns at 7pm eastern on a Wednesay.
Innoruuk spawns at 8am eastern on a Saturday.
Nagafen spawns at lunch on a Sunday.

Not exactly those mobs and not exactly those times, all while the 7 day timer is stilll going. Why not make them spawn in random zones just to really throw a wrench in.

[Not_Kazowi]

Originally Posted by fiegi 8.0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

hb is a saint

[Tradesonred]

Its been said a million times whats wrong with the server, its fucking boring to a PVPer.

You guys better get used to PVPers passing on this purple server and u guys being content with this lol PnP and your 15% time played being PVP.

Item loot would make it more fun, events, blablabla etc

[Tradesonred]

Nothing short of a new server launched with Velious will jolt things back into shape

And then only if devs learn from mistakes made on red and set up some ruleset that actually encourages PVPing.

You need the excitement that was there at the nov 2011 launch coupled with a ruleset that works and a new expansion, + the word of mouth days before the server launches like i did here and on other forums for DAOC origins.

Devs are in denial about their mistake of letting xp loss in pvp on for so long and blame the playerbase for something that was their fault, and applied PnP to fortify the blinders against what theyre in denial about.

So considering this, and that GMs as of yesterday still think its no PnP that killed the pop, id get used to a ghost town server because even if they launch a new server, if they got what went wrong with red mixed up, then a new server is just going to end up in the same state that red is in.