ninja looting or no?

[deadlycupcakez]

no i understand that was deemed by the staff as against server rules. but it shouldnt be... again as i repeat myself.

why is it against server rules to loot something after giving a fair amount of time to those with kill credit, but it is fine for a group to take the mob with the loot from someone who is camping it, without giving them fair amount of time to rally forces. first come first serve? then that is your answer for taking the FFA loot as well.

[Erati]

Originally Posted by deadlycupcakez [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if a guild or someone in it has been waiting 2 months for loot the decision should have already been made on who gets it. rolls dont take 2 minutes.

right the decision was made and the loot from the corpse was jacked the first second it was open to the person the loot was awarded too by the people who actually killed the mob


the mechanic of corpses 'opening' up is because well exp groups are small ( 6 people) and raids well are large ( >6 people)

so many times during a raid, there will be loot that is required to be looted by people 'shocking i know' outside of the exp group.

[Glenzig]

I have a feeling there will be more cases of ninja looting in the near future. It seems some people don't want to accept the rules.

[Laugher]

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pretty good will farell gif lol

[khanable]

Originally Posted by deadlycupcakez [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

no i understand that was deemed by the staff as against server rules. but it shouldnt be... again as i repeat myself.

why is it against server rules to loot something after giving a fair amount of time to those with kill credit, but it is fine for a group to take the mob with the loot from someone who is camping it, without giving them fair amount of time to rally forces. first come first serve? then that is your answer for taking the FFA loot as well.

Well it is against the rules, and doing so will get you suspended.

So fucking deal with it.gif

[Erati]

Originally Posted by deadlycupcakez [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

no i understand that was deemed by the staff as against server rules. but it shouldnt be... again as i repeat myself.

why is it against server rules to loot something after giving a fair amount of time to those with kill credit, but it is fine for a group to take the mob with the loot from someone who is camping it, without giving them fair amount of time to rally forces. first come first serve? then that is your answer for taking the FFA loot as well.

you are wrong because you cannot camp Epic mobs like VT.

she has NO placeholders, and she has NO set spawn time.

Its random, and thusly cannot be 'claimed'.

Much like the randomness of an outdoor spawn, you have to get FTE to state your claim on Verina Tomb.

She is not a camp.


Had Saraya been a cleric clearing Lord Gimblox's PHs for hours and hours then suddenly BDA scumbags roll in when Gimblox pops and jack the spawn, then let the corpse sit there while they run a cleric to come loot the ring during which is Saraya jacks the ring when corpse opens....then your crazy out of left field claims might have some sort of basis in Norrathian reality.

However, that was not the case and read what I wrote.

[Sidelle]

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[Sylexis]

I'd ask everyone to stay on topic but that would sadly only make things even worse wouldn't it.

Originally Posted by Varsha [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its where Im confused honestly.

What is this rule that you don't loot shit you didn't kill anyway? Did I miss it in the rules section or is Everquest really so different than it was 12 years ago?[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I can understand/respect the whole idea of not looting raid mobs but what of random corpses laying around in newbie area? No ones around and theres bonechips on a corpse (lets say its at 3 minutes on timer) and I could use to summon pets. Let it rot? Really? >.>

Scenario 1: Mob killer is not present
Right so it's pretty easy to think someone has killed Trashmob_01, and ran off, or went LD, and whatever they considered trash the next man thinks might be handy to be able to afford his next spells. In that scenario no one is getting banned, nor are they doing anything wrong, heck I know I've seen 2-3 newbies fighting over trash loot opening up so they can get their hands on whatever is up for grabs, still no one at fault, may the fastest click win. (Edit: I mean come on, how many of us run through a newbie zone leaving destruction in our wake trying to get our OT hammers to work).

Scenario 2: Mob killer is present but item is (seemingly) trash
Now then that scale slowly slides over to more valuable and useful things until we get up to something useful. I'll use my own experience last week as an example. I was killing in Loio sarnak fort, lazily looking for a bracer of the hidden while I waited for the chancellor to spawn. A lowbie iksar necro starts running around in the room picking up all the crap I'm letting rot, then thanks me out of the blue for letting him ninja the non drop candlestick off of something that was apparently a necro quest piece. If I had a necro alt on the way in guild chat, according to the rules I should be able to get him banned for looting something that belonged to me without permission. Never mind that I never warned him it was spoken for, that I had someone on the way, or that I wasn't locking the corpse down in any way.

Now in the VT thread you'd have to be an idiot to expect the item not to be spoken for, the mob killer is present and the item is not trash. But other than epic mobs and obscenely obvious things like scenario one, everything could stand to have a bit of due diligence. The necro who took the item off that mob should have held the corpse open and tossed me a tell just to be sure... If AC corpse is sitting suspiciously deserted in the middle of nowhere, are there appropriately leveled players in the zone that could have killed it, or are you in a safe enough place that you can sit on the corpse until it's got 10 seconds to poof before looting. Due diligence. If at any point your gut feels like you're getting off like stealing candy from a baby... due diligence, take a second, check your surroundings and cover your ass.

[moklianne]

I like how not only did the main thread about Saraya not get dumped into RnF, there is now spillage into this one.

[deadlycupcakez]

it has relevance to both the server and the initial questions asked