Variance

[Barladore]

There is no competition when one team can bring 60+. You are brain-dead and likely a new player that went straight into the nihilum app process. The very definition of a "nancy boy" on red.

"Wooo"

[Buhbuh]

so basically what you're saying is you're a guild that claims to be pvp oriented but wont login for pvp unless an incentive is involved because pvp isn't fun for you unless pixels are at stake.

[Danien]

Originally Posted by Barladore [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Everything Hivemind has said is 100% spot on..

As far as the variance vs sim repops goes: Variance creates pvp over the targets where sim repops is often just a trade off.

For example; nihilum goes for VS/inny so az goes for CT/VP. Why risk pvping over something and blowing your chance at everything, when you can pick up more loot by avoiding pvp? Sim repops actually discourages pvp.

Variance promotes pvp both when the mob spawns and when trackers are trying to hold the camp. Will nihilum hold all the camps? fuck no. Sure they will hold most, but at the very minimum there will be constant pvp and jockeying for track camps. People have mentioned how camping those spots is boring? No its not, not in seb, fear, hate or KC. Groups will camp items/exp there and track at the same time. This isnt blue where you can leave a lvl 30 ranger alone to track, he will need major blackup. What variance does is it gives smaller crews a reason to go try and wipe them. You want to know why azrael hasnt been logging in? Because a simple YT isnt worth forming a group to go into KC or seb anymore.

Variance gives added incentive to pvp in small numbers. It gives incentive for people to log in and pvp or hold down an exp camp even at level 60 (more importantly).

Add variance and change the pvp range back to +8/-8

Why not try it for a month?

Variance absolutely increase the amount of trade offs, if not for trade offs multiple strong sides probably wont co-exist for long. But it will also very often lead to pvp as well, just not for every mob during a repop. This is what makes it great, it's the best of both worlds.

[Barladore]

Originally Posted by Buhbuh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

so basically what you're saying is you're a guild that claims to be pvp oriented but wont login for pvp unless an incentive is involved because pvp isn't fun for you unless pixels are at stake.

No I'm saying why not further incentivize small-scale PvP? You've already said you support variance.. What do you like about it there Cyren?

[iiNGloriouS]

I like how half these people who were swinging from the GreatJews balls a few months ago were FOR variance, now that they've tagged Nilly; they think its literally worse than Hitler.

Ach mench.

[R Flair]

Originally Posted by Barladore [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is no competition when one team can bring 60+. You are brain-dead and likely a new player that went straight into the nihilum app process. The very definition of a "nancy boy" on red.

"Wooo"

You mean after your team with equal or greater numbers was thrown out of the ring a few times and decided to whine and protest driving even more players to the other side?

This is a royal rumble son, not your junior varsity qualifiers where you begged the ref to postpone the match until your mommy arrived.

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[Danien]

Originally Posted by Barladore [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Variance promotes pvp both when the mob spawns and when trackers are trying to hold the camp. Will nihilum hold all the camps? fuck no. Sure they will hold most, but at the very minimum there will be constant pvp and jockeying for track camps. People have mentioned how camping those spots is boring? No its not, not in seb, fear, hate or KC. Groups will camp items/exp there and track at the same time. This isnt blue where you can leave a lvl 30 ranger alone to track, he will need major blackup. What variance does is it gives smaller crews a reason to go try and wipe them. You want to know why azrael hasnt been logging in? Because a simple YT isnt worth forming a group to go into KC or seb anymore.

Also I have to say it's incredibly optimistic to say people will need major backup to keep trackbots. It's SO much easier to maintain a trackbot of some sort as compared to shutting it down, especially since most raid zones doesn't even have a level range.

[Barladore]

46+ for planes already and remove level range for kc/seb/vp problem solved.

[Bazia]

Just keep the system where the guild with 60-80 players makes it impossible for anyone else to compete.

Ain't broke don't fix it.

[Danien]

Originally Posted by Barladore [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

46+ for planes already and remove level range for kc/seb/vp problem solved.

What about TD/DL/Skyfire etc?

I'll argue that this doesn't even work for kunark, much less velious when its released. Not to mention your suggestion screws over anyone not in the raid scene.