Freedom From Atheism Foundation

[DeruIsLove]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

do you feel persecuted for your atheism? do you think atheists as a group are being persecuted in america?

i'm dreadfully uninformed about the persecution of atheists - is any of it lion based?

that would be awful!

That's an argumental fallacy known as false equivalency. Not only are you trying to argue that someone suffering more somehow negates the suffering of others, you are also comparing modern day America to ancient Rome. Let's not also forget that the Romans not only fed Christians to lions but also feed Jews, Gypsies, Huns, Africans and Persians to the lions in droves.

As for your ignorance, I did a quick google search for you.

[Malice_Mizer]

Just be thankful you live in America, then. You can complain about persecution for your disbelief, but it could be so much worse than simple mild-alienation and "other"-izing. That's to be expected. You're going against the grain of general society. Everybody else in human history who thought they were trailblazing the truth received their lashings with prideful honor (see: martyrs). Besides, for all of the lip-service we pay to God, the United States has a largely Godless culture where moral relativism and liberation of the sensual appetites is given sole supremacy, so that's one thing you've won at.

Look at that Sudanese Christian woman sentenced to death for apostasy because she's a Christian, for an example in current events. That's even in the same religious family as Islam, and it's still not satisfactory. Or the endless number of Christians in the Soviet Union/Communist China/Southeast Asia/Everywhere who were martyred and physically shoved into the outskirts of society over the past 100 years. You guys still have annoying charlatans like Dawkins and Sam Harris prancing around, agitating everybody with their dime-store philosophical deductions, so it can't be that bad.

Complain all you want about the pious and those who hope, but I think I'd rather be spat on by some self-righteous Christian or have my car vandalized for being an outspoken atheist than live as a religious person during one of humanity's many expressions of secular-humanism-as-religion. Pol Pot, Josef Stalin, and Mao Zedong alone outpace virtually every religion in body count alone, let alone unrelenting misery imposed on their entire unwilling populations for the sake of ideology.

Did I mention that Sam Harris is perhaps the most annoying Ben Stiller-looking public intellectual of the modern era?

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Even when I was a die-hard atheist I thought he was annoying as hell.

[DeruIsLove]

Originally Posted by DeruIsLove [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you trying to argue that someone suffering more somehow negates the suffering of others.

[Malice_Mizer]

1. Perspective and context
2. Know your roots

[DeruIsLove]

Mentioning the Sudanese girl is funny, considering how sensationalized it became because one precious Christian was going to be killed, yet the thousands of other infidels (mostly atheists/agnostics and homosexuals) who are executed every year in that country don't even get a mention. Fuck that.

[Malice_Mizer]

you trying to argue that someone suffering more somehow negates the suffering of others.

[Supreme]

Religion is a sham.

Believe in God or don't.

In this existence our beliefs are insignificant. And after the next age of reclamation (as it has happened before) there will be some other entity to believe in...

And no one will care.

[DeruIsLove]

Originally Posted by Malice_Mizer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you trying to argue that someone suffering more somehow negates the suffering of others.

No you troll. I'm done responding to you for now.

[Malice_Mizer]

Why does existence exist rather than not exist?

[DeruIsLove]

Originally Posted by Supreme [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Religion is a sham.

Believe in God or don't.

In this existence our beliefs are insignificant. And after the next age of reclamation (as it has happened before) there will be some other entity to believe in...

And no one will care.

It's happened at least twice before. I'm still amazed at the at the idea of the Forerunners and I can't even imagine the level of sophistication of the ones they worshipped (the Precursors).