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Old 09-21-2014, 10:07 PM
KagatobLuvsAnimu KagatobLuvsAnimu is offline
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No sorry it doesn't you are mistaken. Try again
Oh, we must have two different versions of the Bible then. Silly me expecting you to have the same version as me when there's hundreds of different versions.
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But the gulf between man and animals still exists. There is just no proof in favor of the evolution of man.
Just because you refuse to open your eyes... this is like the 6th time I've had to say that.
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Old 09-21-2014, 10:08 PM
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You clearly aren't a true Christian because God told me himself that my bible was his true word.
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Old 09-21-2014, 10:10 PM
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Oh, we must have two different versions of the Bible then. Silly me expecting you to have the same version as me when there's hundreds of different versions.


Just because you refuse to open your eyes... this is like the 6th time I've had to say that.
Let me lay it out for you.

And the earth was waste and void," literally "desolation and emptiness." And, on account of the thick vapors in the hot atmosphere, "darkness was upon the face of the deep," and doubtless had been for ages.
"And the Spirit of God was brooding upon the face of the waters," and _perhaps_ was calling into being the lowest forms of marine life.
The First Day's Work. Light Appears.
"And God said, 'Let the light appear'," through the thick vapors. And the light appeared, so that the day could now be distinguished from the night. "And there was evening, and there was morning, one day." This day did not need to be an age or even 24 hours for God's work. How long did it take light to appear? Many years, and even ages, may have followed between each day's work as the "days" were not necessarily consecutive, and it is not so stated.
Second Day's Work. A Clearing Expanse.
"And God said, 'Let there be a clearing expanse (called heaven) dividing the waters which were on the earth from the waters in the thick clouds above, firmly suspended in the air'." This may have continued a long time, though begun in 24 hours.
Third Day's Work. Land, sea and vegetation appear.
"And God said, 'Let the waters under the expanse be gathered together into one place (seas and oceans), and let the dry land appear'." The contraction of the cooling earth caused the elevation of the land, and the draining of the waters into the seas. The geologist Lyell says, "All land has been under water." Hitchcock says, "The surface of the globe has been a shoreless ocean." "And the earth brought forth grass, herb yielding seed after its kind, and tree bearing fruit, wherein is the seed thereof, after its kind." Though the sun was not yet visible on account of dense clouds and vapors, the warm, humid atmosphere was suitable for the grass, herbs, and fruit trees,--three great classes which represented the vegetable kingdom. Ages may have again intervened The Fourth Day's Work. Sun, moon and stars made visible.
"And God said, 'Let lights be seen in the open expanse of heaven, to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs and for seasons, and for days and years'." "And God made the two great lights to _appear_," since neither had been seen through the thick clouds, "the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night. He made the stars also to _appear_." Though created first, the stars would appear last. Ages more may have intervened.
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Old 09-21-2014, 10:13 PM
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You clearly aren't a true Christian because God told me himself that my bible was his true word.
That's fine I will use any bible
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Old 09-21-2014, 10:14 PM
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But the gulf between man and animals still exists. There is just no proof in favor of the evolution of man.
No proof except the fossil record, geological data, archeological data, DNA analysis, and behavioral studies. I am sure I left some things out but you get the point.

I believe it was you a few pages back going on about "missing links" and "no transitional fossils". The very fact you make those statements show your gross misunderstanding of what evolution is. Every animal on this planet right now has a potential to be a transitional species. Every organisms that ever existed had the potential to be or was a transitional species. That is what evolution is. Species slowly changing over time. We see exactly that in the fossil record.
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Old 09-21-2014, 10:20 PM
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And all the irrefutable proof and data backing evolution isn't enough, either. If anything, anything at all about the human species isn't currently explained by modern science, then it must be explained by a creator of the universe. Never mind awaiting new evidence, scientific inquiry, intellectual curiosity - no, we won't be needing those when we can simply point to god and have all our wishes about eternal salvation and vicarious redemption granted in a heartbeat.
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Old 09-21-2014, 10:21 PM
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No proof except the fossil record, geological data, archeological data, DNA analysis, and behavioral studies. I am sure I left some things out but you get the point.

I believe it was you a few pages back going on about "missing links" and "no transitional fossils". The very fact you make those statements show your gross misunderstanding of what evolution is. Every animal on this planet right now has a potential to be a transitional species. Every organisms that ever existed had the potential to be or was a transitional species. That is what evolution is. Species slowly changing over time. We see exactly that in the fossil record.
Find me just one traditional species in the fossil record. That is, one species that went from one kind to another. Say for instance a fish that became a reptile. Just show me one.

You have billions of years of fossil record, that should mean trillions of fossils that exist. All you need is one.
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Old 09-21-2014, 10:22 PM
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And all the irrefutable proof and data backing evolution isn't enough, either. If anything, anything at all about the human species isn't currently explained by modern science, then it must be explained by a creator of the universe. Never mind awaiting new evidence, scientific inquiry, intellectual curiosity - no, we won't be needing those when we can simply point to god and have all our wishes about eternal salvation and vicarious redemption granted in a heartbeat.
New findings don't bring answers just more questions.
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Old 09-21-2014, 10:26 PM
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And all the irrefutable proof and data backing evolution isn't enough, either. If anything, anything at all about the human species isn't currently explained by modern science, then it must be explained by a creator of the universe. Never mind awaiting new evidence, scientific inquiry, intellectual curiosity - no, we won't be needing those when we can simply point to god and have all our wishes about eternal salvation and vicarious redemption granted in a heartbeat.
Analogy raises a presumption against evolution. Analogy is not a demonstration. It is an illustration that strengthens and confirms other arguments. Both the science of mathematics and all physical laws must have come into being in an instant of time. Evolution is not God's usual method of creation.
MATHEMATICS.--There is no evolution in the science of mathematics. There is no change or growth or development. God is the author of all mathematical principles. The square described on the hypotenuse of a right-angled triangle is equal to the sum of the squares described on the other two sides, because he made it so. The circumference of a circle is approximately 3.1416 times the diameter because he made it so. The wonderful calculations by logarithms, whether by the common system with a base of 10, or the Napierian system with a base of 2.718+ a decimal that never terminates, are possible and reliable only because God made them so. Think what great intelligence is required by the Napierian system, to raise a decimal that never terminates, to a decimal power that never terminates, in order to produce an integral number. Yet God has computed instantaneously every table of logarithms, and every other mathematical table,--no matter how difficult. Thus we have positive proof of the presence everywhere of a great intelligent Being, and we catch a glimpse of that mind that must be infinite. He created the whole system of mathematics, vast beyond our comprehension, at once. A part could not exist without the whole. No growth; no change; no evolution; no improvement, because the whole system was perfect from the first. Reasoning from analogy, is it not reasonable to say that the God who flashed upon the whole universe, the limitless system of mathematics in an instant, also created man as Moses said? Analogy supports the doctrine of the special creation of man.
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Old 09-21-2014, 10:27 PM
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Find me just one traditional species in the fossil record. That is, one species that went from one kind to another. Say for instance a fish that became a reptile. Just show me one.

You have billions of years of fossil record, that should mean trillions of fossils that exist. All you need is one.
Have you never heard of a lungfish? Do you not know what an amphibian is?
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