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[Dior]

Originally Posted by RobotElvis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

God is a Spirit, and those worshiping him must worship with spirit and truth.”—JOHN 4:24.

I know you just googled that, and I know you don't really believe the shit you're spewing because if you did, you'd know that the passage refers to god being and proven by the righteous actions of people.

You want to make the claim god is supra and supernatural. The Bible doesn't say that anywhere. Not does it claim that god sits outside of this realm. If he did, that would nullify Jesus's actions in the flesh.

Want some more schooling on the Bible?

[G13]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As far as I'm concerned, and this was my first post directed at him, Robot is exempt from a rational debate altogether since right away he declared evolution is a religion. I don't know how many times I have to repeat this, but I suppose I will once more: This does not pass as an argument and this kind of conflation of ideas should warrant no consideration in today's society which holds itself to higher standards for very good reasons.

You don't get to participate in this discussion when right off the bat you conflate evolution with religion, and atheism with belief. These are the most basic, simple, elementary concepts I can possibly think of regarding this subject. No reasonable sentient being would listen to another word in any real debate or discussion concerning this matter. Get serious, or be left out of the conversation.

Evolution is a lie

Atheism is a lie

Stop pretending you are smarter than everyone else. You're not.

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As far as I'm concerned, and this was my first post directed at him, Robot is exempt from a rational debate altogether since right away he declared evolution is a religion. I don't know how many times I have to repeat this, but I suppose I will once more: This does not pass as an argument and this kind of conflation of ideas should warrant no consideration in today's society which holds itself to higher standards for very good reasons.

You don't get to participate in this discussion when right off the bat you conflate evolution with religion, and atheism with belief. These are the most basic, simple, elementary concepts I can possibly think of regarding this subject. No reasonable sentient being would listen to another word in any real debate or discussion concerning this matter. Get serious, or be left out of the conversation.

So you're taking your ball and going home?

[RobotElvis]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As far as I'm concerned, and this was my first post directed at him, Robot is exempt from a rational debate altogether since right away he declared evolution is a religion. I don't know how many times I have to repeat this, but I suppose I will once more: This does not pass as an argument and this kind of conflation of ideas should warrant no consideration in today's society which holds itself to higher standards for very good reasons.

You don't get to participate in this discussion when right off the bat you conflate evolution with religion, and atheism with belief. These are the most basic, simple, elementary concepts I can possibly think of regarding this subject. No reasonable sentient being would listen to another word in any real debate or discussion concerning this matter. Get serious, or be left out of the conversation.

We'll pardon me! Please provide a viable transitional fossil.
Wait a human! I'm transitional!
I believe I believe! Take me Darwin!

[G13]

Originally Posted by Dior [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I know you just googled that, and I know you don't really believe the shit you're spewing because if you did, you'd know that the passage refers to god being and proven by the righteous actions of people.

You want to make the claim god is supra and supernatural. The Bible doesn't say that anywhere. Not does it claim that god sits outside of this realm. If he did, that would nullify Jesus's actions in the flesh.

Want some more schooling on the Bible?

Your buffoonery knows no bounds

John 4:24 (King James Version)

24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

Googling has nothing to do with that passage in The Bible. It's in The Bible. You lied. You're a trolling little shit. Go away now.

[Dior]

Originally Posted by G13 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your buffoonery knows no bounds

John 4:24 (King James Version)

24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

Googling has nothing to do with that passage in The Bible. It's in The Bible. You lied. You're a trolling little shit. Go away now.

You don't know basic Christian theology nor what the passage refers to. I thank you for giving me this opportunity to teach it.


Does "go away now" constitute a win on these forums? It usually means "Uh...oh fuck. ABORT ABORT" on other forums. Can we have an official ruling on this?

[RobotElvis]

Originally Posted by Dior [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I know you just googled that, and I know you don't really believe the shit you're spewing because if you did, you'd know that the passage refers to god being and proven by the righteous actions of people.

You want to make the claim god is supra and supernatural. The Bible doesn't say that anywhere. Not does it claim that god sits outside of this realm. If he did, that would nullify Jesus's actions in the flesh.

Want some more schooling on the Bible?

6 Now it came to be the day when the sons* of the [true] God*+ entered to take their station before Jehovah,+ and even Satan*+ proceeded to enter right among them.+
7 Then Jehovah said to Satan: “Where do you come from?” At that Satan answered Jehovah and said: “From roving about in the earth+ and from walking about in it.”+ 8 And Jehovah went on to say to Satan: “Have you set your heart upon my servant Job, that there is no one like him in the earth,+ a man blameless+ and upright,+ fearing God+ and turning aside from bad?”+ 9 At that Satan answered Jehovah and said: “Is it for nothing that Job has feared God?+ 10 Have not you yourself put up a hedge about him+ and about his house and about everything that he has all around? The work of his hands you have blessed,+ and his livestock itself has spread abroad in the earth. 11 But, for a change, thrust out your hand, please, and touch everything he has [and see] whether he will not curse* you to your very face.”+ 12 Accordingly Jehovah said to Satan: “Look! Everything that he has is in your hand. Only against him himself do not thrust out your hand!” So Satan went out away from the person* of Jehovah.+

Notice here we have two different realms, the heavenly where God resides and the earthly where Satan was roving about.

Have you been to the heavenly realm? It seems as if that is a place reserved for the immaterial. The a Spirit sons of God And God himself.

And I don't need to google biblical information.

[RobotElvis]

Originally Posted by Dior [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I know you just googled that, and I know you don't really believe the shit you're spewing because if you did, you'd know that the passage refers to god being and proven by the righteous actions of people.

You want to make the claim god is supra and supernatural. The Bible doesn't say that anywhere. Not does it claim that god sits outside of this realm. If he did, that would nullify Jesus's actions in the flesh.

Want some more schooling on the Bible?

Are you claiming that Jesus is God the Creator?

[leewong]

Originally Posted by RobotElvis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That is exactly what evolution posits. That speciation occurs to the point of new kinds of animals being formed from preceding kinds of animals.

To say that all animals have the potential to be transitional is to deny the proof of theory's around you to the contrary. Consider hybrids.

Every species is transitional. Dogs are wolves with distinct traits they acquired through evolution (change over time). Just as wolves are canids with distinct traits they acquired through evolution. Just as canids are mammals with distinct traits they acquired through evolution. Evolution doesnt claim one day a cow gave birth to a chicken then all cows died off because the chicken was superior but that is exactly what you believe it seems.

Hybrids are when two distinct species are mixed to produce an offspring. That isnt evolution in even the broadest sense. Hybrids can only be made when the two species are closely related in evolutionary terms and the results are exactly what you would expect to see. Two isolated populations of animals use to be the same animal but through years and years of evolution they have changed. They have changed so much from one another they cannot produce non-sterile offspring.

[Dior]

Originally Posted by RobotElvis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Notice here we have two different realms, the heavenly where God resides and the earthly where Satan was roving about.

Have you been to the heavenly realm? It seems as if that is a place reserved for the immaterial. The a Spirit sons of God And God himself.

It depends on what school of Christian theology your a part of.

One camp says Heaven and Hell are real places. The other that both realms are immaterial. I take it you're in the second camp, so I'll try to explain some theology for that ass.


God encompasses the entirety of the universe, he is not outside it. The Bible does not mention that God is outside our realm waiting for us. What it does mention that God is omnipresent, meaning everywhere at once, including our living universe. He is not there and then here. He is everywhere.

With that being said, your claim that god is supra/supernatural, meaning outside of our Universe is wrong. You are making the theologically wrong assumption that god is a singular being.