religion

[radditsu]

Also its the guy who fucks tralina

[Toofliss]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Im just curious but why haven't you found that the pursuit of knowledge and science is the best way to find the answers you are looking for?

The way you talk about it, Toofliss. You make it sound as though you think the universe is a marvelous place and that there is many things to be discovered about it.

yet you seem to reach to the church, who have offered no evidence while it insists you stop searching for the truth and simply have faith, to wait to die, to find the answers to whats out there.

I am only saying the truth that you seek cannot be found by a person who knows nothing more than whats outside of his church.

If you want the answers, I would wager the people actually going to space are the people that you should be looking to.

Exploring your inner self is as important as the universe but when claiming to have real concrete answers as to where we are from or where we are going, you can listen to people who have evidence to back their claims, or people who ask you to simply believe them.

for myself, I choose the former.

If it isn't a coincidence, maybe in a thousand years science will figure out what the answer is. Maybe not. Religion, barring the arrival of the lord and savior (or whatever the fuck it is) will never.

The universe IS a marvelous place. So much so, that it's so incredibly perfect in so many different aspects, that it became statistically impossible in my mind that it came about through chance. I didn't look to religion to come to this realization. I looked carefully at the world around me. Scientists used to do this same thing. Look at the world around them and come up with their own hypothesis on why something was. I chose to do the same thing rather than believing what I was told. Challenge everything and look at ALL options.

AFTER I came to that realization, that someone/thing put all these rules into place, then I started looking for more answers. Having given 10+ years to definitively believing there was no God (or super intelligent creator), I figure I deserve to at least give a little segment of my life to investigating the other possibility. Mind you that this was the furthest thing from possible in my earlier years.

Science wants to rule out a creator because we simply can't wrap our minds around it being a possibility. It's a tough pill to swallow. Equally tough to swallow is the concept that with the odds being ridiculously against all of this happening by chance, that we are the biggest powerball winners ever.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Originally Posted by RobotElvis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You have just described the model of critical thinking.
I applaud you.

You have just conflated critical thinking with logical fallacy.
I abhor you.

[RobotElvis]

Originally Posted by Eliseus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This post is backed up by 170 years of peer-reviewed scientific research? Dannnnnnnnnnggggggggggggggggg!!!!!!!!!!

Because Darwin was peer reviewed!

Oh wait didn't exist then nm

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Originally Posted by Toofliss [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The universe IS a marvelous place. So much so, that it's so incredibly perfect in so many different aspects, that it became statistically impossible in my mind that it came about through chance. I didn't look to religion to come to this realization. I looked carefully at the world around me. Scientists used to do this same thing. Look at the world around them and come up with their own hypothesis on why something was. I chose to do the same thing rather than believing what I was told. Challenge everything and look at ALL options.

AFTER I came to that realization, that someone/thing put all these rules into place, then I started looking for more answers. Having given 10+ years to definitively believing there was no God (or super intelligent creator), I figure I deserve to at least give a little segment of my life to investigating the other possibility. Mind you that this was the furthest thing from possible in my earlier years.

Science wants to rule out a creator because we simply can't wrap our minds around it being a possibility. It's a tough pill to swallow. Equally tough to swallow is the concept that with the odds being ridiculously against all of this happening by chance, that we are the biggest powerball winners ever.

There's that word again.

[RobotElvis]

Originally Posted by KagatobLuvsAnimu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You have just conflated critical thinking with logical fallacy.
I abhor you.

Oh I guess critical thinking is belief in peer revied textbooks my bad.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Originally Posted by RobotElvis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh I guess critical thinking is belief in peer revied textbooks my bad.

Nope. But I've come to expect you to not understand at this point.

[Eliseus]

Originally Posted by KagatobLuvsAnimu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's that word again.

Really? Ignoring the fact that I pointed out a outrageous amounts of "peer-reviewed" scientific theories that are later proven to be either completely wrong, or just wtf were people thinking with these theories? The ones I gave are only the tip of the iceberg. You really think there isn't any fallacies just based off the fact so many scientific theories have been discredited over the know history of people creating scientific theories? This one is just right no matter what? Even more considering the amount of evidence to prove on the contrary? I have to say, at least the one thing God has going for him, he has never had anyone that can prove he doesn't exist, which the belief in God has been around since the discovery of known history.

Basically, if I was a betting man, in inconsistency among people that are supposedly "the most intelligent people" would not be getting my money based off of historical inaccuracy.

[capco]

Let's assume God exists, and that God is omnipotent, omniscient, and omnibenevolent.

-An omnibenevolent being would want to prevent all evils.
-An omniscient being knows every way in which evils can come into existence, and knows every way in which those evils could be prevented.
-An omnipotent being has the power to prevent that evil from coming into existence.
-A being who knows every way in which an evil can come into existence, who is able to prevent that evil from coming into existence, and who wants to do so, would prevent the existence of that evil.
-If there exists an omnipotent, omniscient, and omnibenevolent God, then no evil exists.

However, there is evil in the world.

Therefore, an omnipotent, omniscient, and omnibenevolent God does not exist.

[Patriam1066]

Originally Posted by capco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Let's assume God exists, and that God is omnipotent, omniscient, and omnibenevolent.

-An omnibenevolent being would want to prevent all evils.
-An omniscient being knows every way in which evils can come into existence, and knows every way in which those evils could be prevented.
-An omnipotent being has the power to prevent that evil from coming into existence.
-A being who knows every way in which an evil can come into existence, who is able to prevent that evil from coming into existence, and who wants to do so, would prevent the existence of that evil.
-If there exists an omnipotent, omniscient, and omnibenevolent God, then no evil exists.

However, there is evil in the world.

Therefore, an omnipotent, omniscient, and omnibenevolent God does not exist.

Ever heard of Deism?