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[leewong]

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its a form of evolution yeah. But its confined to the limits of adaptation. It also isn't what the premise of the theory of evolution is all about. People had been observing adaptation for millenia, yet there was never any change that could be attributed to Darwinian evolution.

Because it takes millions of years not a few millenia to witness what you are describing.

[RobotElvis]

Originally Posted by leewong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, they are still evolving but they are very well suited to their environment. When you are extremely well suited to the environment then nature is going to reinforce your current traits because they are beneficial traits. Also, it isnt as if sharks are still the same species they were a few hundred millions of years ago. Hundreds of variations have happened since then so today we have over 400 distinct sharks species all arising from a common ancient shark.

You sure like to anthropomorphise nature.

I thought it was random mutations that produced evolutionary processes, not mutations reinforced by Nature.

[RobotElvis]

Originally Posted by leewong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, they are still evolving but they are very well suited to their environment. When you are extremely well suited to the environment then nature is going to reinforce your current traits because they are beneficial traits. Also, it isnt as if sharks are still the same species they were a few hundred millions of years ago. Hundreds of variations have happened since then so today we have over 400 distinct sharks species all arising from a common ancient shark.

Originally Posted by leewong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because it takes millions of years not a few millenia to witness what you are describing.

Time!

[Neyphlite]

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No I'm saying that the word evolution was around for a long time before Darwin. It has more than one meaning. If your setting the definite meaning of Darwinian evolution on what you described, then no, that would be well short of showing Darwinian evolution.

No what you said was that what I described was a "form of evolution" implying that evolution is there. Adaptation and evolution go hand in hand in order to adapt you must evolve in one way or another. Darwinian evolution is just the theory that we humans evolved from apes which scientifically has solid backings with mannerisms, bone structure and similar DNA. Though im not totally convinced on that myself. What I am convinced about is that evolution happens and is not just some made up theory.

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by leewong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When a geologist says sudden they arent talking about minutes or hours or years. This period lasted about 53 million years or more. Suddenly is a very bad term to use when referring to it.

That's hardly an answer. Still doesn't explain the appearance of highly.complex vertebrate animals only during and after the Cambrian period with no evolutionary premise.

[RobotElvis]

Originally Posted by leewong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When a geologist says sudden they arent talking about minutes or hours or years. This period lasted about 53 million years or more. Suddenly is a very bad term to use when referring to it.

And during that 53m years surprise...... No fossils to back it up

[leewong]

Originally Posted by RobotElvis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You sure like to anthropomorphise nature.

I thought it was random mutations that produced evolutionary processes, not mutations reinforced by Nature.

What? I have always maintained that the environment (nature) plays a key role in selecting the traits.

[Neyphlite]

Originally Posted by RobotElvis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You sure like to anthropomorphise nature.

I thought it was random mutations that produced evolutionary processes, not mutations reinforced by Nature.

This is infact backwards it is not random mutations at all nor are the reinforced by nature. It is nature that dictates what a species needs to evolve to survive.

[Whirled]

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Some people even worship some spaghetti dude too.

[leewong]

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's hardly an answer. Still doesn't explain the appearance of highly.complex vertebrate animals only during and after the Cambrian period with no evolutionary premise.

Sigh, you arent even going to check for evidence before you say there is none. I guess I will have to do all the work while you sit back in your chair demanding answers instead of trying to learn on your own.

Here is a link that will get you started:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vertebrate

Getting tired of answering things that you could very well look up on your own.