Does God / a supreme being exist?

[wodiranger]

i finally jsut figured out where Forthmeal got his name when i was at my local taco bell earlier this week, lol figured it out when drinking my baja mountain dew outta my taco bell cup!

[Akim]

Originally Posted by Brain [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Discuss.

Yes

[aggresor223]

Originally Posted by Bojangles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Noselacri:
"[B]ut no evidence supports the existence of any god..."

Incorrect. There are huge numbers of eye witness accounts of a Supreme Being manifesting itself on earth, across most if not all cultures. You may wish to explain away these accounts (delusion, hyperbole, lies, metaphor, mistranslation, etc.) but that simply means you choose not to give credence to the evidence. It does not mean the evidence ceases to exist simply because you do not believe in it.

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[aggresor223]

Originally Posted by fastboy21 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You don't have to believe in any supreme being. What I find interesting is how often people who don't believe (atheists) feel the need to reduce people of faith to little more than child-like minds that believe in the Easter bunny or Santa Claus.

There are plenty of extremely intelligent human beings (by scientific measure) that have concluded that there most be some supreme being/creator. To dismiss them is to conveniently ignore that that overwhelming majority of the human race also believes in some type of faith system.

You don't have to believe in anything. But, to dismiss the majority of the human race and some of its most intelligent and gifted members in a single sentence or two is the real act of ignorance.

I don't want to publicly discuss this anymore, because I do not want to reduce my faith in Christ to a side-show designed by a troll on the rants and flames boards. If anyone, however, has a real question of faith or curiosity about what it is all about PM me and I will get back to you.

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[PoeticPixie]

The Grand Design by Stephen Hawking is a good read (remember his statement that pissed everyone off from that book?). Not that I'm strictly scientific in my beliefs, I kind of believe a little bit of a lot of different things. I'm not sure how to even put it into words. All that matters is that it makes sense to me. Spirituality is a very personal journey. I just wish some of the close-minded people I'm going to college with would admit evolution is a fact. I thought at the college level people would be smarter than this. I can understand some of the older crowd maybe being this way (older than me even/am 33). However, a lot of them are way younger than me as well! Anyways, it's nice to encounter a bunch of open-minded people (for a change). I got sick of pointless debates.

[larvalgeek]

“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?”

[Humerox]

Originally Posted by PoeticPixie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Spirituality is a very personal journey.

This.

The problem is that everyone gets all discombobulated about making other people believe what they do. Who really gives a shit?

It doesn't matter what religion you follow...most have the same basic precepts. I mean look at Buddhism and the Five Precepts:


1. abstain from taking life.
2. abstain from taking what is not given.
3. abstain from sexual misconduct.
4. abstain from false speech.
5. abstain from drinking fermented drink.

Some of that should sound familiar to Christians. Live a good life and you'll be cool with whatever is out there.

Peace.

[Teseer]

I'm dead convinced most holy books were written by some crazy clown after eating a strange psychosis inducing plant.

Would be funny, if it was true, for the guy to see how many people are goin NUTS over his insane scribblings.

[Dest]

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[Bodeanicus]

Originally Posted by Bojangles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are you retarded? Of course stories are evidence. In a court of law they are called "eye witness accounts." Again, the amount of credence these stories should be given can be debated, but it is not debatable that it is indeed evidence. You simply refuse to believe the evidence is truthful; it doesn't change the fact that these accounts fit the definition of evidence.

There are a lot of credible reports of the existence of aliens. The problem is that once closed-minded people like yourself make up their mind what the answer is, they discard all evidence to the contrary. If you assume aliens do not exist, whenever you are confronted with evidence of aliens you will automatically assume the evidence is fake. In this situation there is no amount of evidence that could change your mind, since you would dismiss it all out of hand.

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/09/27...el-say/?hpt=T2

http://abcnews.go.com/International/...china-11813189

http://www.mufon.com/

Note how the only opposition to this is from a snob who seems peeved that this guy didn't send him the data.
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/...est=latestnews

I know its wikipedia, but if you don't trust it then look up their source documents. Pay especial attention to the real people with credible jobs who have been officially admitted to having been present.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roswell...ccounts_emerge



This shows your bias. A set of beliefs is passed along through time and you assume that somehow this invalidates its claims to being a universal truth. I'm sure that when you rip on Scientology you point to how it was created out of whole cloth only a few decades ago as proof that it should not be believed.

Similar to how you discount all alien evidence because you have already made up your small, closed mind about what you want to believe, you choose to believe or to discount evidence based upon whether it supports your pre-existing opinions, not whether your arguments make sense or contradict themselves.




Such small-minded self-righteousness. What proof do you have that it is the religious that have been brain-washed and not yourself? You'd rather believe that a vast majority of all humans who have ever lived are wrong rather than to face the truth: either they are right, or you are just as brainwashed as they are because you choose to believe in something whole-heartedly that cannot be 100% proven or disproven. There is no 'win' situation for an atheist, unlike the religious or the agnostic.

Linking to Fox News just destroyed any credibility you may have had. Goodbye.