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[Akalakamelee]

Originally Posted by nicol [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It really does though, and for multiple reasons. By the time players are ready to leave MM they will most likely have made relationships with people their level, have access to a guild, and may know players who will bind/port them near exp spots for their level. A new player to red has next to no resources to be able to afford ports, items, or spells.

The griefers in MM, specifically, work together. For example: If Slivers is unable to kill a group by himself, he will ask his two buddies to log over (Punx and/or some caster). I can't think of any other zone on red that has decked out, coordinated twinks camped in one specific zone just to grief people into leaving.

This is why I tell people not to level in Gfay area, and yes I would port oUT a group and help them get to another area.

[nicol]

Originally Posted by gobletsmashing [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

CoM - multiple camped out griefers that log in and camp the wall while you're trying to exp and Sol B - epic'd deleveled griefers with epic'd OOR heals / tanks to clear down to your camp. The argument is 'move to a new zone', point taken. However, blatent griefing does still exist.

Point taken, but my main argument is that by the time you are in the level range of CoM you are able to move around zones much easier to avoid griefers. The main reason people move into CB/Unrest/MM is because there are so few people at their level and they are known to have players in the zone at almost all times.

[Ragnaros]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ragnaros the next time you ask or petition anything about nizzar im re-suspending you

hands up, dont root!
Free tune and the duke!!!!
Love you sirken...and syft lol
the duke will return one day

[Ragnaros]

I can for sure confirm sirken has been everywhere lately, pras.

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by Ragnaros [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

hands up, dont root!
Free tune and the duke!!!!
Love you sirken...and syft lol
the duke will return one day

you made me laugh irl, so im giving you a pass on that one [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[heartbrand]

Only issue I have with the so called guild leader forum is one of the leaders has been banned for stripping and deleting, spammed people's irl number on Craigslist, and the other leader has been boxing for 2.5 years, RMTimg / training / ghosting etc. Call it propaganda all you want but I can't say a negative thing about Gongshow other than maybe a train or two over the history of the box. Wish we'd get some new guilds with fresh faces and leadership.

[Ragnaros]

No Nirgon please...jesus

[Swyft]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

firstly, wanna guess how many shits i give about what you think on how i conduct things? there are two people on this planet whose opinions matter to me when it comes to how i GM, and you're not either of them.

i like how you blame me for Hughman, and not the dumb asshole that was casting spells and forcing me to use DT in the first place, but ok fine. and i assume by special you mean so i can inform them of suspensions, get quicker follow up answers to petitions that require more info, and try to make myself available to watch over raids or large scale pvp, then yes. because i cant be in game 24 hrs a day, furthermore anyone that doesnt see the usefulness of that is an idiot. you might find this hard to believe, but some players actually want the staff around for large scale pvp, or just around to show a staff presence on the server.

as far as Colgate, youre the one with the hardon for the guy. i simply said "multiple guild leaders" (and last time i checked HC that was Gonhshow or Terp), and then you went on full retard on a multi hour Colgate rant.

and do answer your final question, youre being extremely fucking crazy. but i mean, if you're gonna make it this easy, i can literally do it all day long.

Not really you started off by calling me a player who has never broken a rule a toxic piece of shit. I pvp here every day i know for a fact that the state of pvp has actually degraded despite the increased pop. that's something only a player who actually goes out seeking pvp would know.

Sure there's a lot of 70 vs 20 scale fights for high end raid mobs lol if you consider that awesome dynamic pvp. Maybe your twisted and let puppies go after pitbulls and call that a fight too.

You asked for an example of how increased Gm presence could be negative I gave two. You asked for how a VIP Council could be bad, i showed how picking the wrong players could make it very bad. You know the kind of players who bindcamp, RMT, and train.

I think it's fine you made a mistake I always liked ya and sung your praises to everyone but lately nah i been seeing some unfair shit. And I'm the kind of person who speaks there mind when I know I'm right despite the repercussions because I don't break any rules and I should have the right to speak the truth.

If increased GM presence means deathtouch/ban first explain later, while taking the word of the first person to petition or the majority vote which will always be the largest guild then no I don't think increased GM presence will bode well on the servers population in the long run. And i have actual reasons to base that on it's not mindless tin foil hat shit when i can give actual examples.

If GM's in the future take the time to research something and give out fair judgement's on both sides of the fence then yea increased GM involvement could be a good thing, But i can only base that outcome on what I've seen of late and that's not whats been happening.

[MavstabYoudead]

BK I think the POF incident shows they have been doing that lately. Just wish there was more transparency to the suspensions, but also sounds like they are working on that through this new leadership forum.

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Only issue I have with the so called guild leader forum is one of the leaders has been banned for stripping and deleting, spammed people's irl number on Craigslist, and the other leader has been boxing for 2.5 years, RMTimg / training / ghosting etc. Call it propaganda all you want but I can't say a negative thing about Gongshow other than maybe a train or two over the history of the box. Wish we'd get some new guilds with fresh faces and leadership.

i dont tell players who to follow buddy. if players want to follow and be represented by other players that have "been banned for stripping and deleting, spammed people's irl number on Craigslist, and the other leader has been boxing for 2.5 years, RMTimg / training / ghosting etc.", then thats on them.

players put these people in their current positions by choosing to follow them and join their guilds. also, i think its cute that most people are assuming im only talking about Holo and Az. i said 'various' guild leaders, im hoping for 4-5 at least.