The Al'Kabor Project (PC/Mac) EQmac - EverQuest done right

[Torven]

Originally Posted by apio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

there are plenty of drops in the database right now that deviate from the 75/25 rule and have weird values in the DB due to straight magelo imports without normalization. The FBSS until recently had a drop rate of under 20%, to name a prominent example

This isn't quite accurate. It was 20% in the database, not less-- but due to the logic error in the loot drop function, it was dropping less than 20%, like almost everything else. I just bumped that up to 25% a couple days ago after reviewing the magelo data.

The effective drop rates for a 75/25 item are about 19.2%/80.8% currently. Code to fix this problem is currently being tested.

Also I had absolutely nothing to do with your forum suspension. I had no idea it happened until now.

The loot drop logic error is one of many bugs that are not unique to our server-- we forked eqemu like every other server did, and we got their bugs along with it. TAKP is fully open however, so our fixes are often going back to eqemu.

Low level mobs hitting so hard is the result of the melee damage mitigation algorithms being inaccurate. (also from eqemu) NPC attack delays and max hits are very close to Al'Kabor's, if not precise in the majority of cases. At higher AC values, the opposite problem is likely happening: mitigation is too high.

We're aware of these issues. We can't just fix them overnight. I'm literally working on this server all day every day.

[apio]

it was actually less than 20% in the database,the allaclone used to show the drop rate in alpha.

Anyhow that was just an example. there are cases that involve quest items that have far crazier numbers

[Byrjun]

Originally Posted by Furst [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you are right lets not air dirty laundry /edit

Personally I didnt want to see a good player leave, but you brought it on yourself. I would have let you back in no questions asked, but you didnt seem like you wanted back in.

I'm not sure how I brought it on myself. I was guild removed at random with absolutely no communication. I waited a day or two for said communication and when I didn't receive any I pursued my next best option. I still haven't received any sort of reason for the guild removal besides second hand information that Wharhogg was ranting about me refusing to do FGs or some other made up crap. What was I supposed to do?

Everyone said they didn't want to see me leave, besides Wharhogg. Funny how that guy has absolute unchecked power and doesn't even need an explanation for his actions. And from what I've heard, this isn't even close to the first time that he's done stuff like this.

Wharhogg - I haven't taken part in any "psychotic rants," am I supposed to take you having logs as a threat? You'd be surprised to learn that I actually don't talk about you much, and about the only thing I've said to someone was that I could consider rejoining A&H if you apologized and stepped down to being a regular member. That is indeed a pretty psychotic rant, so you better backup those logs. Although I'm not sure what value said logs would have, given that you've lost any and all credibility given all the other blatantly false allegations you tried to put on me.

Anyways, what I do know is that this server is super young and doesn't even have raid content yet. People want loot, so they're going to naturally gravitate towards the biggest guild which is currently Armed & Hammered. I'm not going to create a guild today and be top tier competitive tomorrow, but I have played this game enough to see into the future a bit. We'll see what happens when there is an option between sanity and well, you.

[apio]

I like you Reiker but you are going way overboard here. Plus I am pretty sure I never said "I didn't want to see you leave" because you didn't leave but got kicked, and that's between you and wharhogg, but no matter what - I find it pretty sad that you have to come here and make a big drama out of this. Anyways, I wish you good luck with your guild !

[pharmakos]

Originally Posted by apio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I find it pretty sad that you have to come here and make a big drama out of this.

you've calmed down a bit since this morning, i see.

[Byrjun]

I'll be honest, I am a bit frustrated because I had made a lot of friends in A&H and those connections were severed by the actions of one person. I like you Apio, and Elaida and Furst and everyone else.

Anyways, it kinda struck a nerve when he specifically came here to slander me, so I wanted to get my side and the truth out.

That'll be the last I say on any of that, back to me complaining about the drop rate bug. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Furst]

[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] i didnt get recruited to the new guild

[apio]

Originally Posted by pharmakos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you've calmed down a bit since this morning, i see.

what's the matter, nobody wants to play with you?

[pharmakos]

that was unnecessarily catty of me i will admit, my apologies.

[Torven]

Originally Posted by apio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

it was actually less than 20% in the database,the allaclone used to show the drop rate in alpha.

Anyhow that was just an example. there are cases that involve quest items that have far crazier numbers

Before I set it to 80/20, it was 66/16. But it was always min drop 1, drop limit 1, which means the actual drop rate was higher than 16%. I was actually lowering the effective drop rate when I set it to 80/20. I eyeballed it and got it wrong the first time. 16 divided by 66 = 0.2424.

The %s don't always mean that the items will drop at that rate. Plenty of tables do not add up to 100% or add up to well over 100% Allaclone doesn't calculate the correct effective drop rates after factoring in mindrop and droplimit being nonzero.

This project has all of two people who do database work, and both of us also do some code work, and I do a lot of data collecting/parsing of game mechanics on Live. Not only that but I joined the team later on-- Rob was alone for a long time. There simply wasn't the manhours to go through every single quest and adjust every single NPC's drop rate. So I'm sorry for launching too early I guess. I had no say in that.