ogres and AONs

[girth]

Also good for tanking.

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's the only racial that matters.

regen

sneak

[Lowlife]

Basically heres my dilemma, I'm rolling a shammy on red, most discussions about Shaman race proclaim that Ogres are the very best due to their fronal stun immunity (stated mostly through the prism that one can solo high end mobs like lodi easier, which idk if thats something people will be doing on red), a fact I accept. Now, I understand that AoNs are important in the end-game PvP here on red due to their ability to remove ones nameplate. Its my understanding that trolls and iksars retain their regeneration while under skeleton illusion, but ogres possibly lose their sole biggest racial advantage.

I'm abandoning blue. The raid scene is terrible. I don't care about PvE ability as much as what racial is more marginally effective in PvP in my exodus. With that said, thats why I'm asking about ogres and AONs, if ogres get neutered as a skeleton (or as a bear in velious? any guidance on that would be appreciated) I'd probably roll something else, like a troll (5 fr ftw) or iksar (no bash, no jbb).

People say regen is useless when you get torpor, but I'm not sure if that statement is blue logic or not, given the fact that torpor snares your ass.

[Nirgon]

so sneak is garbage on monks? they don't get hide [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sneak's good if you can keep yourself positioned right and it doesn't break when casting/attacking afaik

[fred schnarf]

frontal stun immunity is great, wait till you start tanking velious shit, non ogres will be stun locked on alot of the mobs, and if your stunned you arent building aggro.

[Lowlife]

yeah i figured slam was a must but wasn't sure how effective it was against players at higher levels.

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by Swyft [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If slam was coded correctly here I'd have like 7+ kills but since it isn't I just role new raiding chars.

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

Breakout rap album gonna be named "ogres and aons"

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by Swyft [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

After years of being on these forums poor Hippo still doesn't understand the Trolling Formula...

Truth x Spin + GIF = Troll

He still thinks you can say any nonsense and it's trolling, trolling is like PvP brah it's an artform and you fail at both.

You have a count on how many AoNs you have helped farm for Gyno?

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

regen

sneak

Regen is nice, sneak is nice but neither are game changers like gaining an immunity only available to 1 race in the game.