The problem with a "zerg" guild, and the challenge before us

[Videri]

Alright, let's get back to the point of my thread. Be aware of the meta-battle, the propaganda battle, and don't be taken in by it. Notice that in the very thread I pointed this out in, multiple <Holocaust> members immediately try to make it seem like their guild is the only choice. It's not.

New players ought to just meet people in-game and see who you want to play with.

Originally Posted by Grizzler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well from a new players perspective, based on everything said here and in other posts, mine included, it really seems like a new player has 2 options. Either join one of the smaller guilds, get some loot content but have to claw, dig and fight hard as hell for it OR join holo and get free pixels (as long as requirements r met of course).

I can kinda see why some folks may just do the latter out of ease...

Originally Posted by fred schnarf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

server has shown us zerg guild works, because zerg is easy

people would rather wait in line for gear than work for it

But an MMO is about facing challenges together. So why take the easy road? Remember, winter is coming, newer guilds are coming up, and times are changing...

Originally Posted by Stasis01 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Best just wait till Velious and a second guild will naturally develop based off excess content. Will probably be Fresh? or Azrael?

Originally Posted by Ohno [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This server feels like it's a step from being really competitive... That's why I came here instead of blue. Honestly a lot of good people with a few bad apples.

Originally Posted by snufzaimoverlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If/when this server gets 400 during peak times, which it will since velious on blue is going to be way worse, It will absolutely be able to support 2 or 3 large dragonslaying guilds if those people work together.

Players who enjoy a challenge can find it.

Originally Posted by Grizzler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When it comes to myself, I'm some what of a masochist (christ, I play EQ) so I would probably still look for a smaller guild to attempt to combat the perceived "zerg" guild...

What possible glory is there for you in the old guard?

Originally Posted by lite [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

...by not being in [the zerg] you grant yourself the opportunity to be more than a warm body.

To anyone who wants a challenge, to anyone who really wants to test their PvP and PvE skills to the max, to anyone who wants to be part of a revolution, there are other guilds out there for you where you can make a name for yourself.

If you want to be part of something revolutionary, send me a PM.

[lite]

Originally Posted by grannock [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Case in point. Az/friends had the poh shitshow won 2 weeks ago, friends got scared and would rather port out of the contest to farm nakkids in wc rather than hold down the zone and win the overall battle. Leaderboard is screwing the competition cause they no longer have their eyes on the prize.

who is this?

[Stasis01]

Originally Posted by Videri [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To anyone who wants a challenge, to anyone who really wants to test their PvP and PvE skills to the max, to anyone who wants to be part of a revolution, there are other guilds out there for you where you can make a name for yourself.

I tried to leave Nihi and spent a year on `the other side`and can safely say that they are incompetent, selfish, don`t work with others, think they are special, and like to cry a lot.

If you want to be a part of something extremely frustrating, that will leave a bad taste in your mouth, and smash your head against the wall repeatedly while nothing improves and the constant incompetence drives you insane sign up for the revolution today.

In a perfect world we`d all be little crews, but in reality it`s just better in Holo - peace.

[heartbrand]

In response to that huge wall of text. In most sports or games, the underdog still wins occasionally. On red99 the underdog never wins, or at least loses 99.1% of the time. It's hard to motivate people to keep logging on in a game where you will lose 99.1% of the time. If the odds were even 80/20, you'd see more guild diversity.

Usually they say hate the player not the game. But for eq hate the game not the player. You're playing a non instanced game where there's no counter to bringing more people other than you yourself bringing more people.

[Littlegyno 13.0]

Originally Posted by Stasis01 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I tried to leave Nihi and spent a year on `the other side`and can safely say that they are incompetent, selfish, don`t work with others, think they are special, and like to cry a lot.

If you want to be a part of something extremely frustrating, that will leave a bad taste in your mouth, and smash your head against the wall repeatedly while nothing improves and the constant incompetence drives you insane sign up for the revolution today.

In a perfect world we`d all be little crews, but in reality it`s just better in Holo - peace.

word from an ex nillydog and ex azraelpig.

pras him

[Stasis01]

All I can do with my experience on Red99 is try to help the new players here with my knowledge.

It's a service really.

[Littlegyno 13.0]

Originally Posted by evilldacbane [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But when you were in azrael, you gave these same speeches, just on the other side about how evil zergs are. In conclusion, you're insane.

so says dacbane, known psychopath and the only person on vztz/red99 to obtain butterbrain/dacbanebrain lvl 20.

you're an idiot

[Stasis01]

I made threads saying it's too easy to zerg here, and gave several examples on how the ruleset could be changed to encourage more than 1 guild.

That has nothing to do with why Azrael is a failure and people should avoid them like the plague. You* aren't even fighting the same crew.

I would even say they are a scam, or false advertising - appealing to the FOH small crew PVP crowd, and the we want to beat Nihi crowd all at the same time while alienating other crews like Force/RD who want co leadership.

It's just selfish and shitty - and wanna be elitist, and so what if I'm insane?

[Videri]

Btw, I'm in <Fresh> and loving it. I really appreciate our 50+ crew, officers, and leader, and I look forward to more PvP over raid targets alongside them.

[Stasis01]

Originally Posted by evilldacbane [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You made plenty of posts calling out nihilum for being a zerg, how boring it was, and how you'd never be a part of that again.

Uh what. I was the one wanting Agatha HB Twainz etc recruited back and constantly tried to push working with RD/Force/God's Work?