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Old 05-01-2015, 10:55 AM
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Well at the time I got suspended . Derubael And I belive sirken both said that they were going to start handing out long time suspensions for people that try and get someone suspended with false or illegitimate evidence . But I have yet to see this happen
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Old 05-01-2015, 11:12 AM
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That would require either of them to actually watch gameplay on red real time.

Sirken was filming his skype show during reds biggest battle ever
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Old 05-01-2015, 11:17 AM
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Well at the time I got suspended . Derubael And I belive sirken both said that they were going to start handing out long time suspensions for people that try and get someone suspended with false or illegitimate evidence . But I have yet to see this happen
I would assume there aren't many people sending in false petitions. The problem is people are accidentally breaking the rules or the rules are just too strict. According to the rules in place all of these people should be suspended. There may just need to be a change in rules.

It is tough to come up with a perfect solution. I think PnP has increased population and when people argue for specific changes there always seems to be conflicting sides. I do think most agree that the current system could use tweaking. The GMs are obviously aware of the problem because the suspensions go through them. They can't seem weak or biased and only suspend some people so they are probably forced to suspend more people than they think they should while the current rules are in place.

Hopefully they are working on some changes for the players and their sake.
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Old 05-01-2015, 12:22 PM
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There are false petitions. I've been petitioned for training because a player doesn't understand sneak/ agro mechanics in game. That shit happens all the time. There are plenty of people who petition falsely. There are also people who lose their right to LnS by doing something stupid, but when they petition that they called LNSed and were killed, all that is seen is that someone killed them twice within a short period of time rather than the actions they took to lose their right to LNS.
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Old 05-01-2015, 03:03 PM
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Actually having this part of the rule enforced might help stop some erroneous LNS suspensions: " If you need to move across multiple zones in order to Loot and Scoot, you must call LnS as you move through each zone. If a new player enters the zone, you must call Loot and Scoot so they are aware of your intentions."

It seems like it's the problem of the lns'er rather than the pk'er to make sure everyone who is zoning or coming into a zone or what-have-you knows that they're walking on protected ground.

I typically only ever see someone call out LNS once (unless they're doing it more often in shout and I'm not in their zones?) and then coast away afterwards. Maybe move calling LNS to the shout channel and then be more active about it. That way the problem of "proof" becomes the burden of the accuser rather than the accused. I don't know how much of a pain digging through logs would be, but it seems like it'd be pretty easy to figure out whether or not someone didn't actively call LNS, someone new came into the zone, and then killed the dude on the CR.

Obviously it wouldn't solve all of the problems with LNS suspensions, but it might help some of the more ridiculous/accidental violations?
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Old 05-01-2015, 03:17 PM
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hey idiots





shut up
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Old 05-01-2015, 03:21 PM
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i'd say 95% of LNS related suspensions are from the person trying to LNS not being vocal enough about it

pretty much every single day i'll see someone call LNS and then 15 minutes later get killed by someone who was either not online or was zoning and then was never informed about it

of course, this is always followed up with "enjoy your ban"

man, what a terrible culture this shit has bred

i've heard from at least a dozen different players today that they don't want to participate in PvP or even speaking in-game because of how often people are suspended over very trivial, stupid things. i mean, someone was permabanned last night for saying "FREE <insert several suspended players' names here>" several times in /shout when no one outside of our guild was in zone.

this shit is seriously out of hand
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Old 05-01-2015, 03:23 PM
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Wait, so does that mean someone in your own guild got them suspended?
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Old 05-01-2015, 03:24 PM
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no?
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Old 05-01-2015, 03:44 PM
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Yes the rules totally bred this culture
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