my theory of daybreak recognizing us.

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Originally Posted by Treats [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Good grief, some of you are delusional.

There is no way they do not have every patch and alteration of the game from 1999 to present archived somewhere.

Why would they pay for their own product, thats just stupid.

They actually don't have much if any of the old EQ code which is probably what they got out of this agreement Rogean made with them.

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No QeynosCorruptGuards outside my window. S'okay with me.

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Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I wish people would report bugs or stuff they know is wrong instead of exploiting it or falling back on "someone else will do it."

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Originally Posted by Treats [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Good grief, some of you are delusional.

There is no way they do not have every patch and alteration of the game from 1999 to present archived somewhere.

Why would they pay for their own product, thats just stupid.

lol, im still shocked how some around here consider you some sort of pillar of knowledge and rational thought

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Originally Posted by armyveteran248 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I honestly hope Daybreak decides to buy P1999 and starts selling access. The rate at which bugs get fixed would go up, and the customer service mentality of the devs and GMs would change: it would go from being "its our server, play by our rules or we will destroy you" to "this is making us money and we need to treat players like customers."

Did you never play EQ live during the Verant era? Why on earth do you think that a for-profit company would ever not have the "it's our server" mentality?? The slogan was "you're in our world now". I saw people banned for calling me (on my Guide toon) an asshole. Nothing more than that and a GM in a bad mood. I saw my server GM kill Inny because 2 guilds kept training each other, but not intentionally, trying to get to it. Look up Abashi and see how they engaged the community.

There were so many bugs, some weren't fixed for years and are now considered "classic" such as the way boats in OOT went the wrong direction but was never even attempted to be fixed. Or multi-questing. Faction mistakes. Illusions (such as those under gnome illusion appearing huge to anyone who zones in after). Their own bugs were often called "exploits" rather than fixing them.

John Smedley ran Verant then and runs Daybreak now. Use your head!

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Originally Posted by Treats [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Good grief, some of you are delusional.

There is no way they do not have every patch and alteration of the game from 1999 to present archived somewhere.

Why would they pay for their own product, thats just stupid.

I was told that when they revamped Velious they didnt keep the old code intact since they wouldnt need it again. They modified the coding 2 or 3 times in some cases more over the life of SoV in SoL and beyond. Some of which was prior to them bothering to back alot of it up. I also heard they lost some of it during the changes to staff on the project. Some things were left unfinished and someone new picked it up scrapped some of the code and changed things. The revamp that moved PoM dollhouse to GD and quite a few other changes over the life of Velious impacted what they have saved.

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Are they even going to reveal what this agreement entails? I don't see what they get out of keeping people in the dark.

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Originally Posted by wormed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are they even going to reveal what this agreement entails? I don't see what they get out of keeping people in the dark.

It is quite common for agreements to contain non-disclosure provisions or mutually-approved disclosure requirements.

So if keeping people in the dark means not being in breach of contract, then yeah they will keep people in the dark.

Stop worrying and play P99 or don't.

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Don't think it is the patches that are the problem. They likely do have some or most of them, somewhere. I think the problem is the database and scripts. It wouldn't have much sense for them to constantly back those up unless they specifics foresaw releasing a classic server ten years later. Not likely.

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Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It is quite common for agreements to contain non-disclosure provisions or mutually-approved disclosure requirements.

So if keeping people in the dark means not being in breach of contract, then yeah they will keep people in the dark.

Stop worrying and play P99 or don't.

I'm not worried at all. Just curious. If they reveal, great, if they don't, oh well.