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[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Shjade [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Literal Devil's advocate: if they made a change like this, guaranteed some group would purposely try to force giants to fall under the world rather than kill them since that would essentially take them out of the event.

*Taken Kidnapper Voice*

Good luck.

In seriousness, that is not a very repeatable scenario or one players have an enormous amount of influence on. It has something to do with pushing them on a hill, but it's not something you can conspire to force through the ground. It just sometimes ends up happening.

If this were something you could just bash or stun them and they fell I'd agree. But you can be pushing with 30 melee in one direction up a slope and it still won't fall through most times.

[Haynar]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

*Taken Kidnapper Voice*

Good luck.

In seriousness, that is not a very repeatable scenario or one players have an enormous amount of influence on. It has something to do with pushing them on a hill, but it's not something you can conspire to force through the ground. It just sometimes ends up happening.

If this were something you could just bash or stun them and they fell I'd agree. But you can be pushing with 30 melee in one direction up a slope and it still won't fall through most times.

If we could instantly check if a mob is below world, we could instantly put them back above the world. And constantly checking their Z = unplayable zone.

[Itap]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

*Taken Kidnapper Voice*

Good luck.

In seriousness, that is not a very repeatable scenario or one players have an enormous amount of influence on. It has something to do with pushing them on a hill, but it's not something you can conspire to force through the ground. It just sometimes ends up happening.

If this were something you could just bash or stun them and they fell I'd agree. But you can be pushing with 30 melee in one direction up a slope and it still won't fall through most times.

We had giants fall through the world that were literally standing on flat ground, no hill within 100 yard distance.

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Itap [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We had giants fall through the world that were literally standing on flat ground, no hill within 100 yard distance.

My point being players don't have a huge amount of influence over that.

A raid leader can call for people to push a cleric mob and interrupt CHs. A raid leader could try to call to push a mob underground but that just isn't practical cause you can't force that on a regular basis.

So if they set them to despawn, guilds couldn't use that knowledge to their advantage and despawn mobs at will.

[Itap]

I was referring to the part about them falling through on hills, I don't think it particularly matters where they are when they fall through the world.

Luckily Moregan was there to summon the ones that fell through.

[Haynar]

Originally Posted by Itap [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We had giants fall through the world that were literally standing on flat ground, no hill within 100 yard distance.

I can see one thing obvious. If a dorf npc summoned a giant, it doesnt adjust their z for size. And is likely to send them below the world. Testing some fixes.

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[Nuggie]

Originally Posted by Haynar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What is happening when they fall thru the world? Are they being engaged? Snared? Rooted? High sunned? Attacked by pets? What? I can try to fix when I can reproduce. Otherwise I have no clue where to look.

Warrwin pushed one below the ground by himself. He was on a (steep) slope. He had two beating on him.

Both giants ended up underground. I would imagine, but am not sure, that he pushed one underground. It summoned him and the 2nd giant followed.

[Nuggie]

the location was roughly -1307, -2508, 261