Upcoming change to class epics

[jaybone]

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Already asked, and Haynar trolled me over it. No other staff have commented on why existing epics can't be grandfathered in at least on Blue.

Great job asking a useless question on the cast tonight though whoever that was. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] It was already a gone conclusion that epics wouldn't be doable or usable below level 46.

We were trying to get existing epics grandfathered in since people had already invested countless hours and plat into their twinks to enjoy the game with the way they wanted to, in a very classic way. This would have been the most relevant question to get an answer to at this point.

I asked directly in this thread why not allow existing Blue epics to be grandfathered in, and was trolled by staff for it. Would have been nice to corner them on the stream when they are on the spot and have them explain why grandfathering in Blue epics is not acceptable as people have already dedicated time for several years into achieving their twink BIS epic pieces.

Oh well.

You seem really mad

[JDFriend99]

Why is the patch not happening yet? It was talked about and posted late August? Is it still occuring?

[JDFriend99]

Originally Posted by ergo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Actually I can. The point was - epics should be nerfed because you cant use the effect on them before 46.

You cannot use the effect of proc weapons for the same reason. It is not designed to work before that level, so clearly the item is, by design, not for anyone under that level, if you use the same reasoning given above.

I am sorry you failed to see this. It does not matter how the item is obtained, if the item does not work before X level, then it shouldn't be equiped, if you use the same reasoning.

I am simply applying her logic and reason to other items based on the identical criteria.

Ok maybe I didn't articulate well what I meant. I mean quested items be it epics and items that take a long amount of time to complete quests on may need to be required the lvl or above of the requirement to even start the quest.

What I mean is if you can't efficiently do the quest at 1, you can't expect that item to proc at 1. When I said player made, dropped or bought weapons, I mean those drop are tradeable and have always been lvl1 proc, 20, 30, 34, 40, 44, 46... etc.

I brought the post in replying to someone saying all items shouldn't proc then till 46. That's absurd. You can't compare and epic to say a tstaff or smoldering brand. Smoldering brand drops in the hole. Off 40+ mobs... yet procs 14dd. Do you wanna be 46 using smoldering brand, or an epic or class line type item of your lvl?

That was my comment. I thought making epics 46+ to use, not equip, use...would be good. I don't really think I want a lvl10 cleric w his sprinkler. Seems rediculously not tradional.

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by JDFriend99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That was my comment. I thought making epics 46+ to use, not equip, use...would be good. I don't really think I want a lvl10 cleric w his sprinkler. Seems rediculously not tradional.

Don't care. People invested time under the current classic system to get their epic and make their twinks.

Blue epics should be grandfathered in as equippable pre-46.

Any bigots care to explain why this should not be the case after all these years?

[JDFriend99]

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Don't care. People invested time under the current classic system to get their epic and make their twinks.

Blue epics should be grandfathered in as equippable pre-46.

Any bigots care to explain why this should not be the case after all these years?

Dude read my post... please before you keep arguing with me and calling me now a bigot. Where did i ever say cannot equip? I said proc... Why should a lvl 1-20 be able to epic rez or proc rogue epic etc, or shaman dot, at lvl 1? That's fair u tell me now? So if i entered lguk at lvl 24 with my epic and owned every mob there, thats ok? That's classic? Proc's man procs or clicks, not equip. They can equip it all they want i had said, seemed fair do the work on mains, get a twink w uber stats on item. But proc'ing or clicking dots/dd/rez etc at lvl 1... i dont think any mob in the game under 45 can compete. Seems an unfair advantage vs players that legitemately crawl up the ranks using what they have. Am i wrong then? Was that classic? Because on Myong Mistmoore and Drinal back then, i dont think i ever grouped or ran into ever... and lvl 15-20 with his epic, unless they delvld themselves... which... unless your pvp'ing... seems stupid. The only exception i could see is delvling to 50 or 51 from 52+ to farm naggy etc.

Why anyone would ever unding from 46+ to yield a epic is beyond me.

I have my opinion and that is all i posted. I am no one, merely offering my view like the other 300+ players that comment.

[JDFriend99]

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Already asked, and Haynar trolled me over it. No other staff have commented on why existing epics can't be grandfathered in at least on Blue.

Great job asking a useless question on the cast tonight though whoever that was. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] It was already a gone conclusion that epics wouldn't be doable or usable below level 46.

We were trying to get existing epics grandfathered in since people had already invested countless hours and plat into their twinks to enjoy the game with the way they wanted to, in a very classic way. This would have been the most relevant question to get an answer to at this point.

I asked directly in this thread why not allow existing Blue epics to be grandfathered in, and was trolled by staff for it. Would have been nice to corner them on the stream when they are on the spot and have them explain why grandfathering in Blue epics is not acceptable as people have already dedicated time for several years into achieving their twink BIS epic pieces.

Oh well.

You know what i see? Quite honestly here, i see a guy forgetting he plays here as a gift.... and not an entitlement. You feel your owed something? Have you designed anything here? Do you take the staff out to lunch or watch their kids while they work on code for us?

Tell me again why you feel so important as it absolutely must be your way?

Your not gonna like me bro... I was once 59 few yrs back. I was in a end game raiding guild here, had done all my work etc to get to isle and my drops from hate fear etc. You know what happened to me?

One day Rogean patches a nerf, half dmg on fear kites and reduced pet dmg... I just got my awesome necro pet, didn't buy it no... my guild gave it to me. Because uber guilds can do that. Know what i did, after 2 days... quit.

I quit, i like fear kiting, not root rotting and if i couldn't do that i quit.

If you don't like things he does... simple quit

Don't expect your opinion to sway the server. Who are you? A player... nothing else.

i learned in my 39 yrs experience... This here, is a gift. Hell if i had couple hundred grand in the bank and not 488.00 till payday like i do or less always, id donate 1000.00 to them. For the privilege of being able to log in here and enjoy the game the way i remember it.

Just asking you to take a step back maybe, like i had to. And realize WE as a whole, aren't entitled to a damn thing. No one today as a youth or anything is entitled to a damn thing. This here is certainly only a gift, made possible by Rogean and his team. And as such if he wanted to pull the plug tomorrow, guess what... he can. Not you, not me, only HE.

So ease up on bashing everyone's comments because they don't configure into your idea you want. It's a forum... and that's what forums are for.

[LostCause]

Originally Posted by JDFriend99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dude read my post... please before you keep arguing with me and calling me now a bigot. Where did i ever say cannot equip? I said proc... Why should a lvl 1-20 be able to epic rez or proc rogue epic etc, or shaman dot, at lvl 1? That's fair u tell me now? So if i entered lguk at lvl 24 with my epic and owned every mob there, thats ok? That's classic? Proc's man procs or clicks, not equip. They can equip it all they want i had said, seemed fair do the work on mains, get a twink w uber stats on item. But proc'ing or clicking dots/dd/rez etc at lvl 1... i dont think any mob in the game under 45 can compete. Seems an unfair advantage vs players that legitemately crawl up the ranks using what they have. Am i wrong then? Was that classic? Because on Myong Mistmoore and Drinal back then, i dont think i ever grouped or ran into ever... and lvl 15-20 with his epic, unless they delvld themselves... which... unless your pvp'ing... seems stupid. The only exception i could see is delvling to 50 or 51 from 52+ to farm naggy etc.

Why anyone would ever unding from 46+ to yield a epic is beyond me.


I have my opinion and that is all i posted. I am no one, merely offering my view like the other 300+ players that comment.

none of the clicks on epics worked at low lvl.... lol or procs.

[Tethler]

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

people have already dedicated time for several years into achieving their twink BIS epic pieces.

If it's taken you years to complete your twink you should be 46+ already.

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by Tethler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If it's taken you years to complete your twink you should be 46+ already.

Bigot. Different play styles, and different goals.

"I want to min-max and powergame to zerg end-game content so everyone should aspire to do the same thing as me"

Classic bigotry in action.

[wormed]

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bigot. Different play styles, and different goals.

"I want to min-max and powergame to zerg end-game content so everyone should aspire to do the same thing as me"

Classic bigotry in action.

Did the word "bigot" show up on your word-of-the-day calendar? Because it's really not the proper word to use.

EDIT: Oops, I guess I'm a GRAMMAR BIGOT.