TRUMP 2016 - Page 36

Patriam1066 · #**351** 10-02-2015, 02:07 PM

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1. Absurd, but it was an accident, what do you want to do have them executed?

2. When Obama signs the TPP I switch, like a large number of democrats, to support our savior BERNIE SANDERS who is staunchly against the TPP.

3. Obamacare would have been excellent if it were not for REPUBLICANS spouting out the same fear lies and ignorant paranoia about government run healthcare. Our government run healthcare has had a fantastic start, and will continue to grow, even though the shit republican party is dead set on tearing it to pieces with lies and paranoia.

1. Yes

2. So is Rick Santorum. He was against NAFTA. So is a large part of the republican base. We'll talk if Bernie gets the nomination.

3. There was NOTHING in Obamacare about the cost of drugs. And no, government run healthcare in this country isn't working, because in the VA, like the EPA, we have no meritocracy. In Singapore, your ass gets fired if you can't do a job, that's why they're regularly in the top 3 of least corrupt nations. Our country is middle of the pack for government effectiveness in western societies, mainly because we don't believe in merit.

iruinedyourday · #**352** 10-02-2015, 02:23 PM

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1. Yes

2. So is Rick Santorum. He was against NAFTA. So is a large part of the republican base. We'll talk if Bernie gets the nomination.

3. There was NOTHING in Obamacare about the cost of drugs. And no, government run healthcare in this country isn't working, because in the VA, like the EPA, we have no meritocracy. In Singapore, your ass gets fired if you can't do a job, that's why they're regularly in the top 3 of least corrupt nations. Our country is middle of the pack for government effectiveness in western societies, mainly because we don't believe in merit.

Government run healthcare has made my life easier and costs me very little so yes, it is working. Is it perfect? nope, and not because of any reasons you would suggest. It's not because of lazy people or our governments ability to run something. Its once again, because of idiot republicans steamrolling everything, every day with lies, ignorance fear and paranoia without offering any solution.

The republican party is a giant hyperbole of people saying they don't want the government running anything while demanding that the government ban abortions and control contraception. Or that Corporate Politics is ruining our country, but we have to get rid of any government involvement in maintaining any corporate law.

the DNC isnt perfect but I'll be damned if you think they even in the same universe of retardation that the republican party is.

Patriam1066 · #**353** 10-02-2015, 02:48 PM

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Government run healthcare has made my life easier and costs me very little so yes, it is working. Is it perfect? nope, and not because of any reasons you would suggest. It's not because of lazy people or our governments ability to run something. Its once again, because of idiot republicans steamrolling everything, every day with lies, ignorance fear and paranoia without offering any solution.

The republican party is a giant hyperbole of people saying they don't want the government running anything while demanding that the government ban abortions and control contraception. Or that Corporate Politics is ruining our country, but we have to get rid of any government involvement in maintaining any corporate law.

the DNC isnt perfect but I'll be damned if you think they even in the same universe of retardation that the republican party is.

Obamacare has raised my premiums. That's neither here nor there.

What I'm saying is the two parties are the exact same, despite marketing to the contrary. Yes, they differ on some social issues to fire up their bases (neither has done anything about social issues, they demogogue the issue and wait for the Supreme Court to decide them), but in te hugely important things, like outsourcing, immigrant labor lowering wages, unaccountable government, quid pro quo in politics, they're mirror images of each other. The system isn't working, and Bernie sanders being in 2nd place 13 months before an election doesn't change that, in the same way Rick Santorum not supporting nafta didn't change the fact that the overwhelming majority of the rest of republicans did, and it was signed by Bill Clinton. On the economic issues, which are the only issues that matter, the two parties suck ass and have no daylight between them. Citizens United baby. Congress and the executive branch are bought and paid for.

Alenon · #**354** 10-02-2015, 02:53 PM

I now pay, just for myself, 4x what I paid for me and my son 4 years ago under this wonderful forced healthcare. Love it

iruinedyourday · #**355** 10-02-2015, 02:54 PM

I disagree that both parties are equally bad, the republican party is far, far, far worse. It really is nieve to just say that both are equally bad.

Anyway as per usual Bernie is steamrolling through this preelection year getting more and more support, even though his opponents love to argue that he is invisible and a non factor: http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpo...content=202501

Get ready for the future POTUS Bernie Sanders. Its the way of the future, like it or not.

Pokesan · #**356** 10-02-2015, 04:04 PM

2015 democrats are just as bad as 2015 republicans because bill clinton 1994

both parties are identical except these really fucking important ways i don't personally care about

what

Pokesan · #**357** 10-02-2015, 04:07 PM

if you don't care as much or little about the particular issues that i do, you're just a sheeple being hoodwinked by the guys i disagree with

Patriam1066 · #**358** 10-02-2015, 04:10 PM

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2015 democrats are just as bad as 2015 republicans because bill clinton 1994

both parties are identical except these really fucking important ways i don't personally care about

what

TPP is happening now, not in 1994 genius. Hillary is supported by Citigroup today. Social issues aren't important. They are decided by states and courts. The elected federal government does next to nothing about them. And before you say the congress and presidency determine the courts, realize that 5 out of the 9 Supreme Court justices were appointed by republicans but haven't voted that way. It's a joke to believe the two parties are different, it really is.

Free trade and immigration are the only two important issues. Only Bernie sanders and Donald trump have even mentioned this shit.

Patriam1066 · #**359** 10-02-2015, 04:10 PM

PS - Bipartisan prison reform. Even that didn't matter, they acted the same. Which is a good thing

iruinedyourday · #**360** 10-02-2015, 07:18 PM

Trump, hes really going to fix this country eh? http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/29/up...-managers.html smh

"Donald Trump’s tax plan, released Monday, does not live up to the populist language he has offered on taxes all summer."

what a surprise [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]