Times like these...

[Lurikeen]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why can't you people understand that the fact that people break laws isn't an argument against the concept of laws?

You are demonstrating how you miss the point. It isn't that your opponent has given you flawed logic, it is that you are willfully ignoring the reasoning given to you. No kidding people break laws, duh! You're assuming that people who aren't like you are nitwits. What you don't want to understand is that an armed public is actually a good resolution to certain problems of public safety (Private gun ownership Bad! More guns bad! Right?). That goes beyond your comprehension because you have adopted the lie that more regulation equals more safety. That's why your're getting bashed with rock metaphors and the like (pun intended, since I like bad puns). The point is, the regulations you desire aren't making you safe.

[Lurikeen]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Honestly it sounds like your mind is made up. Whenever anyone has anything to say on this topic gun owners such as your self just imidiatly shut it down with arguments like comparing the deadlyness of a rock compared to a gun. Sigh.

My mind is made up. I own guns. Did you think I was gunning to dump all my guns because some "dude" on a game board was crying about them?

[Lune]

Originally Posted by Lurikeen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You are demonstrating how you miss the point. It isn't that your opponent has given you flawed logic, it is that you are willfully ignoring the reasoning given to you. No kidding people break laws, duh! You're assuming that people who aren't like you are nitwits. What you don't want to understand is that an armed public is actually a good resolution to certain problems of public safety. That goes beyond your comprehension because you have adopted the lie that more regulation equals more safety. That's why your're getting bashed with rock metaphors and the like (pun intended, since I like bad puns). The point is, the regulations you desire aren't making you safe.

Oh yea, how could I miss that point you weren't making until now?

Where did I say I didn't want an armed public? I don't want armed criminals and lunatics. Obviously, they will still find guns. I just want to make it more difficult. Currently, as I've demonstrated, it is not very difficult.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sacrificing liberty for security is the basic founding principle of human civilization and the social contract. We sacrifice certain liberties for certain protections inherent in the social order of civilization. It's one of the underpinnings of the political philosophy of John Locke, upon which our system is based.

I'll agree with you with the stipulation that it must be done in moderation. There is no compensating for human fallacy/greed and the more liberties you sacrifice, the closer to a totalitarian state you become.

History has proven time and time again that there's a very clear line that gets passed that causes an irreversible death sentence to be passed upon a civilization, a death sentence that never takes longer than a century and often is complete in less than three decades.

The difference with modern society is that for every real liberty taken away a false liberty is "given" to the people and the VAST majority of them don't know the difference. It's insidious and subversive and it's the reality we live in.

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by KagatobLuvsAnimu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You've said multiple times in multiple threads that you "hate guns" and that you support universal bans. Get the fuck out of here with your bullshit.

Yea down the road I would prefer a socicety without guns.

But for now, my stance is, and will be gun ownership is fine, but this bullshit of jerking off to them and painting them pink and naming them is fucking gross and irresponsible and exactly the type of behavior that screams, "i am not responsible enough to own a gun"

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yea down the road I would prefer a socicety without guns.

But for now, my stance is, and will be gun ownership is fine, but this bullshit of jerking off to them and painting them pink and naming them is fucking gross and irresponsible and exactly the type of behavior that screams, "i am not responsible enough to own a gun"

You keep beating on that strawman. Could you maybe once be aware that there's a a million positions in between "gun nut" and "anti-gun"?

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by KagatobLuvsAnimu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You keep beating on that strawman. Could you maybe once be aware that there's a a million positions in between "gun nut" and "anti-gun"?

could you be aware that there is a million positions between "anti-gun" and "gun nut"?

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Try harder.

[Patriam1066]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yea down the road I would prefer a socicety without guns.

But for now, my stance is, and will be gun ownership is fine, but this bullshit of jerking off to them and painting them pink and naming them is fucking gross and irresponsible and exactly the type of behavior that screams, "i am not responsible enough to own a gun"

Most gun nuts aren't actually violent. White rednecks aren't the people committing violent crime in America. I'm sorry that doesn't fit the narrative but it's actually a different subset of the population that glorifies violence and does nothing introspective to teach their children a different path. You'll never say a word about that though. The day I hear a liberal call out Melanin-Americans for being disproportionately violent, uneducated, and irresponsible is the day I will sell my shotgun, that I use for hunting quail and dove, and my glock, which I keep in a safe in my house just in case.

[Ranndom]

Originally Posted by Nocsucow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

love it..... bet it was a blast!!!!

Wish i couldve gone. The majority of people at that event were youtubers, some old, some new. The rest were family/friends/ and military