If you believe in god, you're an idiot...

[Hauling]

Originally Posted by Pycoba_rng [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You could take all the thinkers in the world. Neither one of you could prove anything other then you wasted time thinking about it. You say its lazy not to think about it. Yet it just proves you wasted your time. You have yet come up with any factual statement showing me god isn't real. The only thing you have shown is you choose to disbelieve him. Which quite frankly doesn't suprise any of us who believe.

Once again, the burden of proof has been shifted to the wrong people. You have yet to come up with any factual statement showing me god is real. It's a nice, neat idea, that there's an all powerful creator that controls everything and I'm all on board for it, but you can't substantiate your claim that there's a god any more than a gypsy fortune teller can substantiate the claim that they can see the future. I am not going to take it on your faith that he exists. Sorry, but I'm a little more hard-nosed than that.

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by RocketMoose [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is not evolution...this is mixed breeding...same as why humans are taller, fatter, and hit puberty at younger ages now than ever before...we have introduced artificial stimulants.

You seemed to ignore this:

Now try that with single celled organisms, lots of them... and make sure they are spread out through all the water on earth so different colonies of these organisms are living in different climates/ecosystems. You can see where I am getting at with this.

Life on a planet doesn't start with fury four legged animals.

Originally Posted by Boggwin Bramblefoot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Like Rocket said earlier...that is mixed breeding not evolution. Nice try genius...lmao. Try breeding a cat and dog. What do you get then? Nothing. Because it cannot be done...lol.

um... and you apparently missed that part too. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[guineapig]

If you believe in a deity, any deity at all. Why would you think that this deity would create all these rules about the nature of the universe and then just for the hell of it break the rule in order to magic humans into existence? It's never made sense to me why certain believers can't grasp the concept of evolution being part of god's plan.

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

Originally Posted by Japan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

argumentum ad populum

god in the gaps

even trying to troll bro? this shit is boring

Did I say that because most people believe, it is true? Nope. I know it is true based on my own belief. How about tackling the second part of that post? And I am impressed with your Latin. It does make you sound smarter too...lol. Although you ruined it by writing "bro" and "shit".

[Hauling]

Originally Posted by Boggwin Bramblefoot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I like those who say that science disproves God and so forth. Like I said before, prove that you have dreams. Actually, hypothetically, prove that you had a dream about a bear eating a pickle...you can't. You can hook crap to your head and see that you brainwaves changed and that you sleep cycle was different at certain times during the night, but you cannot prove that it was a dream about a bear eating a pickle. Here is the thing though. You KNOW that you had that dream. It is something you know deep down inside, but you cannot prove it. Same with God. Some people just know. Others think they are smarter than everyone else by pointing out that you cannot prove to them he exist. Ask them to prove that they have dreams, or love someone, or that an unobserved tree in the middle of the woods made a sound when it feel. They cannot, but they will tell you that they just know for a fact that they did. Funny how they pick what they want to believe yet make fun of those who do the same.

There's far more evidence that dreams exist than god exists. I can't prove to you what I dreamt about last night, at least not with current technology, but if you really want to go through the trouble, it can be proven that I do dream.

Can I show you the exact images that were in my head? Not yet, but I can hook myself up to a machine, record my brainwaves while I sleep, and if I report having a dream, I can study the brainwaves and compare them to scans of times when I slept and did not report a dream. I can do this over and over again in a repeatable, consistent manner, not only for myself but for anyone, and there are people who do this, for large cross-sections of the population and they get consistent results, and they publish them to be reviewed, confirmed or even contested by their peers.

Now, as you've asked, can I prove that I had a dream about a bear eating a pickle? No. I can certainly lie about it, but the door swings both ways on that one. You are free to be as skeptical about my pickle eating bear as you want. Fact is, though, I don't have much incentive to lie about my dreams. Is there anything to be gained from it? Is there anything to be gained by lying about god? Certainly there is, especially back in the days when the idea of a single god came about. Money and power, not to mention all the stuff that gets attached to it when you start to believe your own lies, like an eternal life of happiness with all your friends and family and everyone in history you'd like to hob-nob with and your first dog Tippy.

Further, by this analogy, do I need to prove to you that I also took a piss this morning? Do I also need to prove to you that I am even capable of taking a piss? Or do you think there's enough existing evidence out there that you can infer from that I do indeed piss?

[quellren]

Originally Posted by Boggwin Bramblefoot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Let me ask you this. Let us assume that there was a big bang (talk about having faith!). Where did all that matter come from? Did it just pop into being? It wasn't created at all? It just came into existence? (once again, talk about faith!)

Here's the first thing you need to understand about matter. It's really just energy. Specifically, discreet particles called 'photons'.Since you can neither create nor destroy energy, photons have always been. It is believed that all energy in the universe was concentrated in an unimaginably tiny, unimaginably dense, yet stable, 'ball' of energy at one time. *Something* disrupted that stasis and photons began to spatially separate and decay into other arrangements that had much less electrical attraction and thus made larger, more stable particles, like quarks, protons and so on. This happened at a fantastically rapid rate, along the lines of 1.0 x 10^-15 (.000000000000001) seconds. What happened in that fraction of a second is still a mystery, as the mathematical equations don't work the way they do for all time beyond that first bit.
One thing is for certain, all matter (energy) has always existed, it's just been arranged differently in the past.

[Hauling]

Originally Posted by Boggwin Bramblefoot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well I guess you are far superior in you thinking to the other 5,793,732,000 on this planet that believe in God. I feel blessed being in the presence of such an awe inspiring being such as you...someone with all the answers...lol. JK. I'll stick with God if you don't mind.

5,793,732,000 people believe in god, therefore god exists. This is a fallacy of false cause, I believe.

cum hoc ergo propter hoc: believing that correlation implies a causal relation.

[Harrison]

Originally Posted by quellren [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here's the first thing you need to understand about matter. It's really just energy. Specifically, discreet particles called 'photons'.Since you can neither create nor destroy energy, photons have always been. It is believed that all energy in the universe was concentrated in an unimaginably tiny, unimaginably dense, yet stable, 'ball' of energy at one time. *Something* disrupted that stasis and photons began to spatially separate and decay into other arrangements that had much less electrical attraction and thus made larger, more stable particles, like quarks, protons and so on. This happened at a fantastically rapid rate, along the lines of 1.0 x 10^-15 (.000000000000001) seconds. What happened in that fraction of a second is still a mystery, as the mathematical equations don't work the way they do for all time beyond that first bit.
One thing is for certain, all matter (energy) has always existed, it's just been arranged differently in the past.

How in the flying fuck do you know that? lol

Not even what, decade ago, we didn't even know where more than half of the universe's mass was, nevermind WHAT it was? You're going to make a claim as strong as that based on what precious little we "know" now?

[quellren]

Originally Posted by Harrison [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How in the flying fuck do you know that? lol

Not even what, decade ago, we didn't even know where more than half of the universe's mass was, nevermind WHAT it was? You're going to make a claim as strong as that based on what precious little we "know" now?

It's the first Law of Thermodynamics. You don't have to know where it is, or what it weighs to understand that you cannot create or destroy energy.

[Henini]

Originally Posted by Boggwin Bramblefoot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dogs cannot breed with cats. This fact stops evolution dead in its tracks.

LOLLLL

why is it that it's always religious freaks that come out with this kind of funnies!!