Shadows of Luclin server

[Sebastionleo]

What needs to happen is Luclin and POP without the Bazaar, the ports from Nexus down to old world, and the POK books. Introduce the levelling zones and the raid zones, and get rid of all the stuff that ruined the community. I feel like there is no possible downside to this.

[CoffeeBreath]

Originally Posted by Sebastionleo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What needs to happen is Luclin and POP without the Bazaar, the ports from Nexus down to old world, and the POK books. Introduce the levelling zones and the raid zones, and get rid of all the stuff that ruined the community. I feel like there is no possible downside to this.

Makes perfect sense but the autists won't allow it. I would vote with my wallet for this.

[thufir]

Originally Posted by CoffeeBreath [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Makes perfect sense but the autists won't allow it. I would vote with my wallet for this.

That's the second time I've seen some dude claim autism from Nilbog and the other devs who won't let them have what they want, while in the same breath promising them money if they give them what they want.

I don't understand this strategy. Does this work for you guys in RL?

[salimoneus]

Originally Posted by Sebastionleo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What needs to happen is Luclin and POP without the Bazaar, the ports from Nexus down to old world, and the POK books. Introduce the levelling zones and the raid zones, and get rid of all the stuff that ruined the community. I feel like there is no possible downside to this.

There is nothing classic about bringing in half an expansion. That just seems like a really bad idea, as the mechanics would completely change from the original.

Sorry peeps, just give up your dreams of SoL in any form at P99. The devs have absolutely no interest in going past Velious, they have made this very clear many times. I don't think they really care if a few dozen people would love SoL. Never going to happen here. I'm sure there are other places where people can find that if desired.

Haynar wants to play too at some point, and he can't do that if he's continuously debugging new expansions, especially one which many feel was the beginning of the erosion of the "Classic Everquest" experience.

[icedwards]

I voted for Luclin on the poll that was posted, with the hopes that we might see PoP one day. From a raid perspective, the highest end content with BIS gear will always be fought over tooth and nail, but opening up more content for smaller/casual guilds to progress through is healthy.

That being said, the devs have stated multiple times that Velious is the end and there's no way I can fault them for sticking to that. I won't be holding my breath to step foot in Vex Thal on this server.

[Sebastionleo]

Originally Posted by salimoneus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is nothing classic about bringing in half an expansion. That just seems like a really bad idea, as the mechanics would completely change from the original.

Sorry peeps, just give up your dreams of SoL in any form at P99. The devs have absolutely no interest in going past Velious, they have made this very clear many times. I don't think they really care if a few dozen people would love SoL. Never going to happen here. I'm sure there are other places where people can find that if desired.

Haynar wants to play too at some point, and he can't do that if he's continuously debugging new expansions, especially one which many feel was the beginning of the erosion of the "Classic Everquest" experience.

A few dozen people? There are more people who want it than who don't, its just the people who don't want it are more vocal, constantly trash talking it, while the people who want it usually just quietly vote for it on polls.

The Devs have said they won't go to Luclin, but they have also said they plan on doing something past velious. They've yet to see a server 4 years into Velious where people are bored of the same raid mobs over and over again, I wouldn't be surprised to see some form of Luclin, be it on this server, or a mirror server.

[Baler]

Why would a classic radio station start playing modern music?
same logic applies here. Don't turn a classic server into a modern server.

My understanding is that Project 1999 is Nilbog and teams vision. I never recall him saying he had any plans for luclin. Just Classic, Kunark & Velious from my understanding.

Tune the station if you want to hear modern music. You knew what you were getting when you tuned into classic.

[Sebastionleo]

There is no classic. There is only Original, and then expansions. People can call through Velious "classic" all they want, but its just an arbitrary designator. Classic rock stations are playing 80s rock now, they used to play 70s rock, you know why? Because times change. Pretty sure the old classic rock stations I used to listen to play early 90s rock now too. We're 15 years past when this stuff came out, its all classic.

Also, people want to see this server go to Luclin and PoP because it is THE ONLY server with a community. The only server with a population. We can't just "go play PoP server" because THERE ARENT ANY. The closest thing is PEQ, which is up to GoD for raids, and Omens for levelling zones. The Al'Kabor Project and P2002 are working up to PoP, but are currently in like Kunark/Velious. This server has the devs who care to put in the time, and the people who play, that none of the other servers have, and we would like to see it continue to prosper, not stagnate with 4+ years of training Vulak to the entrance of ToV and bidding on BIS gear.

Luclin has lots of raid content that will keep raiders happy and busy for a lot longer than Velious ever could. PoP? Has even more quality raid content to keep raiders busy. This server population size is perfect for a Luclin or PoP timeline.

[Kevynne]

Originally Posted by Sebastionleo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is no classic. There is only Original, and then expansions. People can call through Velious "classic" all they want, but its just an arbitrary designator. Classic rock stations are playing 80s rock now, they used to play 70s rock, you know why? Because times change. Pretty sure the old classic rock stations I used to listen to play early 90s rock now too. We're 15 years past when this stuff came out, its all classic.

Also, people want to see this server go to Luclin and PoP because it is THE ONLY server with a community. The only server with a population. We can't just "go play PoP server" because THERE ARENT ANY. The closest thing is PEQ, which is up to GoD for raids, and Omens for levelling zones. The Al'Kabor Project and P2002 are working up to PoP, but are currently in like Kunark/Velious. This server has the devs who care to put in the time, and the people who play, that none of the other servers have, and we would like to see it continue to prosper, not stagnate with 4+ years of training Vulak to the entrance of ToV and bidding on BIS gear.

Luclin has lots of raid content that will keep raiders happy and busy for a lot longer than Velious ever could. PoP? Has even more quality raid content to keep raiders busy. This server population size is perfect for a Luclin or PoP timeline.

tl;dr

they call it classic because it's the game verant made, and the game they loved.
SOE made luclin and after which most people dislike

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by Sebastionleo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A few dozen people? There are more people who want it than who don't, its just the people who don't want it are more vocal, constantly trash talking it, while the people who want it usually just quietly vote for it on polls.

This Sebastionleo fellow is a smart man.

And thanks for pointing out that is not the poll that I was referring to. I think most of the active users know exactly the poll that I am talking about.

"A few dozen people" Oh lord, there goes that vocal minority trashing Luclin again.


Oh and for the record, nilbog is not anti-Luclin.

He said he doesn't want to work on it, but that doesn't mean he can't/won't find slaves to do it for him while he casually oversees it as a side project.