Shadows of Luclin server

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

PoP gave a plethora of things to do for non-raiders and a vibrant economy. Did you not see the 150+ people in BoT on a week night during live?

Well said HB. I was only referencing Luclin in my post. Of course, both expansions have so much to do for everyone from level 1 to level 60. PoP was possibly the most genius raid progression tiered system ever designed.

Imagine not needing raid class R, raid class C, raid class D, etc.

Imagine if the mobs you could kill simply depended upon the skill of your guild? That is Luclin, and even more so, Planes of Power. Hello Corinav (good luck with that BDA), Plane of Earth, and Xegony. Oh and RZTW says hello too. Meaningful rewarding guild progression tier system built into raiding? YES PLEASE.

I was merely referring to the fact that the biggest donors tend to play at the bleeding edge on blue, hence why I said more raids bring in more donations to support the project.

According to last years poll, its possible that less than 20 people are against Luclin. But they sure know how to post negative comments about it.

2002-2003 era EQ. Shits classic. Peak subs. The Golden Age of Everquest.

[Sebastionleo]

Originally Posted by Kevynne [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

tl;dr

they call it classic because it's the game verant made, and the game they loved.
SOE made luclin and after which most people dislike

Thank you for commenting on the least important part of my post.

[Widan]

Originally Posted by Kevynne [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

tl;dr

they call it classic because it's the game verant made, and the game they loved.
SOE made luclin and after which most people dislike

Verant=SOE hate to burst your arbitrary argument's bubble

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by Sebastionleo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thank you for commenting on the least important part of my post.

Everyone knows that Verant was SOE. Verant became the SOE we know today. Verant developed Luclin. She just failed again.

Luclin was THE Vision. Highest gameplay, highest subs. All the anti-Luclin do is post incorrect garbo biased posts.

[salimoneus]

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This Sebastionleo fellow is a smart man.

And thanks for pointing out that is not the poll that I was referring to. I think most of the active users know exactly the poll that I am talking about.

"A few dozen people" Oh lord, there goes that vocal minority trashing Luclin again.


Oh and for the record, nilbog is not anti-Luclin.

He said he doesn't want to work on it, but that doesn't mean he can't/won't find slaves to do it for him while he casually oversees it as a side project.

You can toss around all the poll numbers, and "vocal minority" claims you want (mostly unsubstantiated of course), but the fact remains the good guys running this shindig have no interest in anything past Velious, and that IS ACTUALLY the vocal minority you should be listening to, and the only one that really matters.

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by salimoneus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can toss around all the poll numbers, and "vocal minority" claims you want (mostly unsubstantiated of course), but the fact remains the good guys running this shindig have no interest in anything past Velious, and that IS ACTUALLY the vocal minority you should be listening to, and the only one that really matters.

Relax dude, god forbid we have a discussion about post velious EQ on a message board with other EQ junkies.

[dallow2345]

I once saw an old guy yelling at a Marie Calendars because he wanted breakfast and they don't serve it. The waitress tried telling him they had some omelets on the lunch menu but he wanted breakfast and was angry he couldn't have what he wanted. So he finally got the idea he wasn't going to get breakfast and went to Denny's down the street. the end.

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by dallow2345 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I once saw an old guy yelling at a Marie Calendars because he wanted breakfast and they don't serve it. The waitress tried telling him they had some omelets on the lunch menu but he wanted breakfast and was angry he couldn't have what he wanted. So he finally got the idea he wasn't going to get breakfast and went to Denny's down the street. the end.

Correction. Its more about getting the staff to consider ways and means at this point, than a matter of convincing or "getting it".

We're getting something, we're just not sure what right now.

That's a fact that IS confirmed by staff.

The point of this thread is for unbiased Luclin historians to discuss what Luclin can possibly do for the server, and a gentle reminder of exactly how many people voted Yes Luclin/PoP in 3 separate polls over the past 2 years.


If nilbog had the slave labor he could beat with a stick once a month and be available bi-weekly to assist and answer questions, I think that would alleviate what seems to be his chief concern about Luclin is. Which is, for him personally, he doesn't want to work on something that he personally did not enjoy.

If there was a way for him to develop Luclin without spending any of his own valuable time on it, it is my understanding that it would be done, simply for the sake of doing it, and to put that option on the shelf for a later day. Because no one on staff management has a personal beef with Luclin that they have made known to us yet, in fact, its been the opposite. Admin is neutral on it.

Again, based on staffs answers (nilbog), there is no hard no. Just a soft no based on the fact nilbog doesn't want to volunteer any time into something he does not enjoy and would not see himself personally enjoying (Completely justified, and he did an outstanding job on Velious. I would never suggest he should work for free on something he is not passionate about. I back him 100% on not spending a single hour on something he didn't enjoy).

[salimoneus]

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Again, based on staffs answers (nilbog), there is no hard no.

Maybe you should go re-visit some of the past comments from the vocal minority:

Originally Posted by Haynar

If we do anything post-velious, it should be what SOE/VI should have done. Not what they did with Luclin. I am against the going to the moon concept.

Originally Posted by nilbog

This is a prekunark-velious server. Nothing has changed about our mission goal :P

Since this is a hypothetical discussion, I will join in.

There is no way I would go forward with Luclin and beyond. (cat people and aliens? really. It went from a fantasy setting to 1990s scifi.)

I don't know what you consider a "hard no", but those two statements sure seem to qualify to me.

Not trying to rain on anyone's parade here, just trying to save y'all some time from barking up the wrong tree. This whole Luclin thing is just an exercise in futility. But by all means feel free to continue polling and pleading if that's how you choose to spend your time, whatever floats your *boat* (no nexus or mount substitutions allowed there [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] )

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by salimoneus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe you should go re-visit some of the past comments from the vocal minority:






I don't know what you consider a "hard no", but those two statements sure seem to qualify to me.

No link, no date. It would mean the stance has changed, so I am not buying it until I see some verification with timestamp/date.