Clinton or Bernie?

[Gitem]

Rather see Bill as first husband than see a cuck prep the bull

[iruinedyourday]

Gitem what was it like during primary day in NY?

cus the aftermath looked pretty fucking faggot.

[AzzarTheGod]

gud posts

[Mandalore93]

Not sure if some of the replies here were to me' but I meant I don't see hillary winning in the general election. She's had the primaries locked for a while

[Ikabod]

It seems like there's a larger percentage of Bernie/Hillary supporters in the P99 community than out in the real world. I believe this parallels the larger than average percent of unemployed and students that are just looking to increase the amount of free shit they get at the expense of others and their country. If you can't see how awarding the least productive members of society and punishing the most productive would have a negative effect on the nation's health just by using common sense, at least read a book about how socialism has worked out in the past. I'm guessing it's far from the utopia you envision.....or just keep worrying about yourself at the expense of everyone else and get shit on even harder in the long run. Take a look at Greece.

[Villide]

Originally Posted by Ikabod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It seems like there's a larger percentage of Bernie/Hillary supporters in the P99 community than out in the real world. I believe this parallels the larger than average percent of unemployed and students that are just looking to increase the amount of free shit they get at the expense of others and their country. If you can't see how awarding the least productive members of society and punishing the most productive would have a negative effect on the nation's health just by using common sense, at least read a book about how socialism has worked out in the past. I'm guessing it's far from the utopia you envision.....or just keep worrying about yourself at the expense of everyone else and get shit on even harder in the long run. Take a look at Greece.

You mean, out in the real world, where Hillary has over 2 million more votes in the primaries than Donald Trump?

The rest of this is boilerplate FoxNews-like regurgitation.

[Gitem]

Hillary is going to be president.

Sorry you're mad. Not like fly over states count for anything anyway.

[Lune]

Originally Posted by Ikabod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It seems like there's a larger percentage of Bernie/Hillary supporters in the P99 community than out in the real world. I believe this parallels the larger than average percent of unemployed and students that are just looking to increase the amount of free shit they get at the expense of others and their country. If you can't see how awarding the least productive members of society and punishing the most productive would have a negative effect on the nation's health just by using common sense, at least read a book about how socialism has worked out in the past. I'm guessing it's far from the utopia you envision.....or just keep worrying about yourself at the expense of everyone else and get shit on even harder in the long run. Take a look at Greece.

Why don't you tell me more about how socialism has worked in the past. You think the failed "socialist" states like the Soviets failed because socialist policies are inherently bad, or because their culture couldn't handle it? I mean, now that they are more capitalist, they still suck, because they are corrupt and incompetent, but I don't see you claiming that is damning evidence of capitalism's inferiority. What about Nazi Germany, whose socialist reforms produced a booming economy in the midst of the Great Depression while all the market economies all over the world were sinking into the abyss? Or our contemporary peers in the first world, whose more socialist institutions produce greater outcomes and superior well-being for their population? They outperform us in every way possible except aggregate wealth (Which doesn't matter for you and I in the US, because it's held by the elite, and doesn't get recirculated into the economy). What about Medi-care, a socialist program so popular in the USA that any politician, Democrat or Republican, wouldn't dare touch it because they'd immediately get voted out of their seat?

I think people like you just want to extract as much value as you can from society, while giving as little as possible back. Believe it or not, not everybody is like you. Many people are going to work to be the best and do great things without the promise of riches. Just look at academia over the last few centuries; none of the great scientists who built the scientific foundation of the modern world did it to get rich (Oppenheimer, Bohr, Heisenberg, Schrodinger, Pauli, Von Braun, Robert Koch, Pasteur, Einstein (who was a socialist), Planck, Curie, etc etc etc).

In a capitalist system, those who control the capital hold all the power, both political and economic. It's not evil to try and negate the stranglehold they have over everything for the benefit of the middle class. The only reason your life is bearable right now and you're not living like a Chinaman is because sometime last century some socialists decided to unionize and win things like a 40 hour work week, paid vacation and sick leave, living wage, health and safety regulations, pensions, employer funded healthcare, etc

Being an obsequious servile corporate bootlicker has just as negative an effect on our nation's health as anything else. They've successfully convinced people like you that anything that is contrary to the interests of the business elite is bad for the country, and that's unfortunate-- because now we're seeing the formation of monopolies, crumbling national institutions and infrastructure, wage depression in spite of high productivity, and business interests directly controlling politicians.

Originally Posted by Dwight Eisenhower

Should any political party attempt to abolish social security unemployment insurance and eliminate labor laws and farm programs you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group of course that believes you can do these things. Among them are a few other Texas oil millionaires and an occasional politician or business man from other areas. Their number is negligible and they are stupid.

^Republicans used to be capable of being progressive and reasonable. Then Ronald Reagan happened and that "tiny splinter group" destroyed America and created an entire party of people like you.

Originally Posted by Albert Einstein

The economic anarchy of capitalist society as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of the evil.... I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals. In such an economy, the means of production are owned by society itself and are utilized in a planned fashion. A planned economy, which adjusts production to the needs of the community, would distribute the work to be done among all those able to work and would guarantee a livelihood to every man, woman, and child. The education of the individual, in addition to promoting his own innate abilities, would attempt to develop in him a sense of responsibility for his fellow men in place of the glorification of power and success in our present society.

From the article, "Why Socialism?" by Albert Einstein

Capitalism was indispensable as a way to drive industrialization and the transition into the modern industrial world, but the future has to be a more socialist mixed market system.

[azeth]

Originally Posted by Ikabod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It seems like there's a larger percentage of Bernie/Hillary supporters in the P99 community than out in the real world. I believe this parallels the larger than average percent of unemployed and students that are just looking to increase the amount of free shit they get at the expense of others and their country. If you can't see how awarding the least productive members of society and punishing the most productive would have a negative effect on the nation's health just by using common sense, at least read a book about how socialism has worked out in the past. I'm guessing it's far from the utopia you envision.....or just keep worrying about yourself at the expense of everyone else and get shit on even harder in the long run. Take a look at Greece.

I'm terrified that invalids like yourself may be and likely are reproducing

[Gitem]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In a capitalist system, those who control the capital hold all the power, both political and economic. It's not evil to try and negate the stranglehold they have over everything for the benefit of the middle class. The only reason your life is bearable right now and you're not living like a Chinaman is because sometime last century some socialists decided to unionize and win things like a 40 hour work week, paid vacation and sick leave, living wage, health and safety regulations, pensions, employer funded healthcare, etc

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