Hillary = Huxley's Nightmare, Trump = Orwell's Paradise

[Nihilist_santa]

Originally Posted by Nibblewitz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, I urge everyone to keep an open mind. In my opinion, the situation becomes very clear when you "follow the money."

Looking at the few responses I have received from my comments, I will bow out of this discourse.

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I get what you are saying but straight up abolishing the fed is over the heads of most people. The exciting thing about Trump is that nationalism is cool again. This will shift the Overton window.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overton_window

This then opens up the public to being more receptive to nationalist ideas as opposed to the socialist views and policies we have been dealing with. Central banking is key to socialism so you will meet with a lot of resistance until a changing of the guard.

When just straight up "following the money" the Don was relatively "self funded" until he became the nom . Having raise only something like 59 million. Hillary had raised something like 300 million mostly corporate money compared to Bernie's 290 million which was mostly grass roots. It is not uncommon for big industry to donate to both parties hedging their bets trying to earn favor. Even now you can see the media establishment has completely turned on Donald especially with Roger Ailes out. All of this should tell you something.

[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by R Flair [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So you don't really know anything, you're just pretending you do to spread misinformation.

Got it.

Obviously he doesn't. Not even aware how business works and the dealings with banks. What he's actually throwing out here is the old dead horse the Cruz camp tried to use to deflect Cruzer's political loans by his wife's banker friends. Is the Clinton camp even using this failed tactic? That'd be a lol.

[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by Nibblewitz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, I urge everyone to keep an open mind. In my opinion, the situation becomes very clear when you "follow the money."

Looking at the few responses I have received from my comments, I will bow out of this discourse.

Y'all have a nice day. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Or rather than allowing for an empty... er I mean an open mind, all these financial disclosures are public. I know, I've searched through Donald's financial releases, including from FEC publications especially. They have found nothing on him, nothing at all. The only thing they have right now, which is ALL they have - is Clinton's and their media lapdogs, that he's being audited by the IRS right now and doesn't want to release the disclosure until they are finished.

They put him in a position where if he doesn't disclose it right now, they demonize him and make up all kinds of whack shit like paid off by the Russians etc etc. But if he does disclose now, and the IRS makes corrections later, he's called out as cheat or whatever they can pull out of it.

I'm going to take a wild guess, that if the IRS finds no errors, they are going to take their sweet time to conclude this audit. Try searching back for all the news reports on the IRS being used against the opposition to the democrats. All the conservative and religious organizations targeted, harassed, even personal finances targeted, to the point of making such groups unable to operate.

[Nihilist_santa]

Originally Posted by Daywolf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Or rather than allowing for an empty... er I mean an open mind, all these financial disclosures are public. I know, I've searched through Donald's financial releases, including from FEC publications especially. They have found nothing on him, nothing at all. The only thing they have right now, which is ALL they have - is Clinton's and their media lapdogs, that he's being audited by the IRS right now and doesn't want to release the disclosure until they are finished.

They put him in a position where if he doesn't disclose it right now, they demonize him and make up all kinds of whack shit like paid off by the Russians etc etc. But if he does disclose now, and the IRS makes corrections later, he's called out as cheat or whatever they can pull out of it.

I'm going to take a wild guess, that if the IRS finds no errors, they are going to take their sweet time to conclude this audit. Try searching back for all the news reports on the IRS being used against the opposition to the democrats. All the conservative and religious organizations targeted, harassed, even personal finances targeted, to the point of making such groups unable to operate.

The Emperor of Humanity operates on a different level than us mortals. I think he is letting the Dem imagination go wild and will hold out on releasing til the last minute. This way they look like morons with a bunch of baseless accusations.

Latest electoral map from most recent polling included below

 

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[Trollhide]

Originally Posted by Nibblewitz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Corporate banks, hence my criticism of change.

Ah these must be the same corporate banks that have blacklisted Trump from borrowing any money

for being too good of a businessman

[BardPop]

Hilary is crooked and corrupt, trump is ambiguous and hasn't really laid down his plans yet. Even though I was kid when Bill served his terms, I still remember people saying that the Clinton were both huge liars and the way it's panned out Hilary seems to fit the mold. I'm not really enthusiastic about either of them, but what I am enthusiastic about is the power of the people to hold whoever gets elected president accountable for each and every single thing they do. America is almost 400 million strong against a very small number of Clinton or Trump people, the people CAN and SHOULD hold whoever is sworn into office accountable for their choices and not let them run this country into the ground, so even if I don't have much faith in either Clinton or Trump hopefully America will progress regardless of whoever wins-If Clinton wins I hope she's not a complete nut, and if Trump wins I hope he tries to do something to fix all the problems related to debt and war this country has accumulated.

Fun fact, we haven't been debt free since the 19th century, this country has massive problems with not paying back our creditors whether it's ourselves or foreign nations, we need to just pay the over $1 trillion debt we currently owe and be done with it. God knows we spend enough on the military to have that kind of money laying around. We currently spend over 600 billion on the military each year, we could probably cut that down a little bit so we can pay off our debt. Over a trillion dollars debt is generally bad.

[Nibblewitz]

Originally Posted by BardPop [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fun fact, we haven't been debt free since the 19th century, this country has massive problems with not paying back our creditors whether it's ourselves or foreign nations, we need to just pay the over $1 trillion debt we currently owe and be done with it. God knows we spend enough on the military to have that kind of money laying around. We currently spend over 600 billion on the military each year, we could probably cut that down a little bit so we can pay off our debt. Over a trillion dollars debt is generally bad.

You can't be debt free in a debt-based economy. All the money in supply was created out of loans (debt); loans that accumulate interest which has to be paid.

money supply = total loans

money supply < total loans and their interest

Someone will have to default on their loans by design.

[AzzarTheGod]

we don't have a wall against Canada because its a successful 1st world nation-state.

you don't have Africa-grade governments (3rd world shit-tier neighbors) and not build a fucking wall. It just doesn't make any sense you morons.

Americans deserve better than to be at the mercy of the Mexican justice system and Mexican policing system. Period.

Western Europe doesn't need any wall because they don't have this problem. Its all 1st world neighbors with 1st world nation-states in the EU.

[Trollhide]

or we could always revise our draconian drug policy and corresponding privatized for-profit prison system that enabled the cartels to thrive and turned Mexico into the third-world shithole it is

thingsthatwillneverhappen.txt

[Jarnauga]

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