Rotation RNF Thread

[Sallan]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Top-down solution:

1. Staff-invoked unilateral ban on VP, ToV, ST, and ring wars until rotations are worked out.

2. 48-hour grace period to get your characters out or rebind. After that, the portals to ToV, VP, and ST will not work and the zones will be taken offline. The ring war trigger will not spawn.

3. Ban stays in place for two weeks or until rotations are solidified in Raid Discussion and each involved guild/guild alliance signs off.

4. System to allow prospective guilds/guild alliances their own slot must also be solidified.

5. All agreements must be unanimous, but not all-inclusive. Example: Guilds 1, 2, and 3 agree to a system, but guild 4 says no. If guild 4 refuses to agree by the end of the two week ban, then they will be excluded. They may apply for a slot under this system in the future if they have a change of heart.

6. Zones are brought back up under license-to-kill surveillance. First breach and your guild is permanently disqualified. Second breach and it's disbanded.

So, how about it? Sirken?! Nilbog?!?

Do keep in mind that the smaller guilds may at some point try their hand at the occasional NToV/Kael contested mob. The only reason most don't is because they can't mobilize the same way as the other bleeding edge guilds currently. Not to mention time zone factors to attain maximum numbers to attempt (this is the case at least for Infernus).

I'm fairly certain should those equations above line up on the rare fitting day we certainly would try our hand at one or two targets that are available, as how it was back on live.

Right now the 1 hour FTE race rule of engagement for those zones suck but they present us with that opportunity. A rotation with just the 4 entities will not.

[Sephito]

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[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you'll have to excuse Nune, he's clinically retarded

He's got spunk, I like that.

He should upload everything he knows into me so I can make better posts for him.

[Flux]

Originally Posted by Speedi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I normally don't post on these. But I figured I would tell the biased and misinformed FACTS to indulge a deeply rooted resentment that I hold towards a Class R guild that disappeared 12 months ago, despite my claim to have moved on with life.

Love,

Speedi

fixed.

[Speedi]

Originally Posted by Flux [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

fixed.

Its ok classic spin team in the works, Rather than post facts, you resort to this.

Just shows the people that what I posted is the truth. Better luck next time

[Detoxx]

Originally Posted by Speedi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

was referring to their smug attitude's that they are all that. Not about their weekly kill lists

Oh I know, I was just predicting what the bandwagon member Kagey would say in response.

[Speedi]

Originally Posted by Detoxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh I know, I was just predicting what the bandwagon member Kagey would say in response.

Well since u bought it up. No offense Kagey, like you have room to talk bro? What was you doing besides getting feared with RUN ON being the classic DPS monk ... here is a classic picture of most of Taken riding my poor Rampage pals coat tails ... my pool Rampage pals bastards have to prob go seek medical treatment everything there is a raid. So my Rampage pals probably have to take 2-3 percs before going to a raid these says? Got to, I know those Taken guys can get pretty heavy.

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Love all my ex IB/Rampage pals! Really miss you!

[Flux]

Originally Posted by Speedi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its ok classic spin team in the works, Rather than post facts, you resort to this.

Just shows the people that what I posted is the truth. Better luck next time

I think your post included enough "facts" for one discussion. If anyone wasn't already completely disengaged with this thread, your post certainly tipped them over.

https://youtu.be/xc6tmYYhOUU?t=2s

[skarlorn]

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

im sorry what exactly is Getsome trying to prove with this picture? Anyone can float an idea casually to create a record of ced idea for posting later.

Why would Awakened suddenly have to amend an agreement bc someone doesnt agree with how the rotation was functioning and wanted more?

Why is it Awakened's issue that Rustle got 'too big' and thusly needed its own slot? This screenshot proves nothing besides the fact that Getsome at the end of August wanted more VP loot for his guild and was voicing that. Pretty big difference between voicing an idea of potential changes versus informing other parties in an agreement that they no longer will follow the current structure of what has been agreed too. What did Getsome even offer as a sweetner to make a 4 way split of VP easier to swallow to Awakened's members who did not like splitting the zone in the first place?

I will await another screenshot of ced offer but I wont hold my breath bc no offer existed...

So to recap, Rustle which started off as a casual 'we're only interested in raiding here and there guild', forced its way into both the VP and Ring 10 rotation, recruited too many players who wanted to raid, realized they couldnt and didnt want to continue sharing a VP spot with CSG, expected their own slot on no other merits besides ability to raid solo, offered no concessions to acquire the slot ( outside of going last in current order ), breaks the rotation the first chance an Awakened cycle presented itself and now plays the victim ????

I am sorry your guild got too large to share VP but its incredibly rude to break an agreement in this manner and BLAME us when you guys got Awakened's PD heh. Basically burning up any amount of good faith that was build from the agreement and just made it so Awakened's leadership will have to think twice about ever trusting Rustle's word.

If they actually wanted their own slot, they could have been discussing it right now this week leading up to CSG/Rustles rotation, a lot of good faith was tossed out when we were threatened and those threats acted upon this repop.

Originally Posted by Gimp [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They were, and they (along with BDA) killed the rotation because they felt that they deserved more than the other guilds in the rotation.

Which makes all of what Erati's said in the past few posts an absolute joke.

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I can also confirm that the most seedy players I've run into have been in Taken. They are the type of people to poopsock Ragefire and not offer heart when a level appropriate cleric tries to quest their own up

[Speedi]

Originally Posted by Flux [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think your post included enough "facts" for one discussion. If anyone wasn't already completely disengaged with this thread, your post certainly tipped them over.

https://youtu.be/xc6tmYYhOUU?t=2s

Sorry Flux, this was nothing again you friend. Like I said before I was just stating the facts. Its not opinon, its just FACTS.

Here is a copy and paste just for you

Originally Posted by Speedi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I normally don't post on these. But I figured I would tell the FACTS.




I think what this guy meant was if it wasn't for all my Rampage pals being so generous Taken would of never got anything.




That's pretty accurate. I mean what did Taken ever do on their own? I don't recall them EVER killing a contested VP target when IB/TMO was actively killing there. Once Velious was released Rampage didn't focus on VP and Kunark targets so we let BDA and Taken have VP, and the smaller guilds have Kunark targets. We was hoping the smaller guilds would have a better chance. But we all know what happened there as well. To show you how greedy Taken (Awakened) are, they are STILL to this day killing fear golems, VS, etc. I could go on, but I am sure you guys get the point. When they are doing nothing but giving that stuff to alts when the smaller guilds main toons that's been waiting for years still need stuff like that for their epics. Also I am not blaming my Rampage pals, I guess its goes back to the old saying "If you hang around dogs long enough your going to catch fleas"

As for Rampage we dominated Velious then once we got tired of killing the same target over and over we decided to call it quits. Some AFK'd for a while (like myself) some quit for good. Want proof you say? Just look at the server first Vulak kill, and see how many of those Rampage are still around.

The ones that wanted to continue raiding voted on a new guild name and all my Rampage pals and Taken merged to form a new guild called Awakened. The leadership was voted on also. I refused to go over to the fact the very few times I ever had problems with people on this server it was someone with a Taken tag. I know every guild has their problem child, and no guild is perfect. But facts are facts.

Also Rampage gave Awakened TONS of items and platinum to help them out for recharges and to start the guild out right. Since Taken never raided hardcore, for the guild to survive they needed it. I can remember in Rampage a full recharge session costing 300-400k for a full week, sometimes more. Hell Sontalak alone (which Rampage killed every week) was 200k or so recharge. Taken didn't have that kind of resources to do that every week.

To put it into perspective on how bad Taken was ... I can remember towards the end of Rampage, Taken wanting to help Rampage out on Sontalak, we quickly told them "Thanks but NO thanks!" This was because we couldn't depend on Taken not getting low HP agro and flipping the dragon and getting us killed. Later on I remember another time we actually let Taken help out when we was low on numbers. Let me tell you it was a shitshow. Sontalak flipping all over because Taken members not being prepared to stay alive during the fight. Then another time, we asked a select few of their members. We got the Sontalak killed, with like 10 or so Taken. Basically the ones we hand picked and could count on, Eratani was one of them. If I recall correctly that was the last time we ever asked them.

In closing, Taken never killed one contested Velious target by themselves. I can remember them wiping many many times on Klandicar and Rampage coming to help them just to be the nice guys we are. So once Awakened was formed all my Rampage pals had to carry them for several months till they got the hang of ToV and VP. If the truth is known they are STILL carrying them till this day, but I cant confirm that since I am not in the guild. What is funny to me about the entire situation is the fact Awakened would be NOTHING without the ex IB/Rampage that came over to carry them. But they act all smug, and act like they are all that ... give me a break. You guys might not admit it, but we all know its true. This is nothing personal, its just the truth. Sometimes the truth hurts right?

Love,

Speedi